Re: Nevada paper trails work without a hitch

From: Douglas W. Jones <jones_at_cs_dot_uiowa_dot_edu>
Date: Sun Sep 26 2004 - 14:37:53 CDT

On Sep 26, 2004, at 2:14 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:34:38 -0500, Douglas W. Jones
> <> wrote:
>> Douglas W. Jones Comments on the EAC TGDC Testimony
> "...suggestion of a 'dissertation defense model' of source code audit
> disclosure..."
> Doug, does this mean that vendors would disclose their code and, like
> a piece of code that makes up a dissertation, be subjected to attacks
> by a certain subset of the population?

What this means is that there would be a public report of the
source code examination, in which the source code examiner
would present the results of the examination along with
samples of the source code that illustrate the key observations.
This way, the examination would be taken from the realm of
the entirely confidential to the realm of being open to public

The "thesis defense" model Paul Craft presented also includes a
prohibition on taking notes during the presentation. I gather
there is a similar prohibition at thesis defenses at some
universities -- it allows the thesis to be defended in public
without fear that someone will spoil the patent or copyright
rights of the student by rushing something into print before the
thesis is published.

Paul Craft suggested this as a creative way to open up the
voting machine examination process without forcing the vendors
to go open-source. While I'd perfer real open-source voting
systems, anything that opens up the process is a step forward.

Frankly, though, the statement from Herb Deutsch from ES&S
that he'd like to end the system of proprietary ITA reports
offers a far bigger step, although quite frankly, I think Paul
Craft's proposal combined with Herb Deutsch's proposal would
be even better, since ITA software review reports are not
uniformly revealing and are frequently fairly close-mouthed
about what was observed.

                Doug Jones
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