Re: [OVC-discuss] Wired: Nation's First Open Source ElectionSoftware Released

From: Nathan Adams <nadams@ieee.org>
Date: Mon Oct 26 2009 - 20:52:41 CDT

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Nathan Adams <nadams@ieee.org> wrote:

> In any case, trust but verify.
>

:)

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Brent Turner <brent@trealestate.net> wrote:

> If a co-founder of the EFF is involved (Mitch Kapor), I have to give them
> the benefit of a doubt.
>
>
>
> No “activist “ ( or any other ) association should create any benefit of
> anything- - looking forward to learning more – BT
>
>
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> *From:* ovc-discuss-bounces+brent=trealestate.net@listman.sonic.net[mailto:
> ovc-discuss-bounces+brent <ovc-discuss-bounces%2Bbrent>=trealestate.net@
> listman.sonic.net] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Adams
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2009 6:28 PM
> *To:* Open Voting Consortium discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: [OVC-discuss] Wired: Nation's First Open Source
> ElectionSoftware Released
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:10 PM, David Mertz <mertz@gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
> Bev Harris sayeth:
>
>
>
> But again, you gotta wonder: They are "releasing the code" but not all of
> the
> code. To which I can only comment: Strange, but true.
>
>
>
> Nathan Adams responded:
>
>
>
> The article was poorly worded. They have not actually written all of the
> code. You can't release code that doesn't exist.
>
>
>
> It's also worth noting that the code that *is* at their git repository DOES
> NOT have any LICENSE notice (with the exception of the Registrar component,
> which is labeled as CC-SA). I have inquired to OSDV about their code
> license status, but have not yet received any response. If anyone else is
> able to obtain clarification on just how they have licensed their code, it
> would be great to hear about that.
>
> I don't think there is any conspiracy or sleight-of-hand in not having
> written all the code. Every project starts with some code which isn't all
> of what it needs to be. But it is also conventional with true FOSS projects
> to prominently indicate the rights of users of even that first line of code.
> OSDV should do this ASAP.
>
> Unfortunately, we have seen other players in this space who have released
> code that claims to be Open Source, but is something less than that on
> closer inspection. It heightens concern for clarification of license status
> when someone new "releases" (or announces) something.
>
>
> If a co-founder of the EFF is involved (Mitch Kapor), I have to give them
> the benefit of a doubt. However, its not clear if he has anything to do with
> OSDV or just happened to be at the same panel discussion. In any case, trust
> but verify. If there are issues with what they are doing (lack of copyright
> & licensing terms), then we should politely and publicly point those out. If
> their response is less than forthright, then we will know them by their
> actions.
>
> Here are their Charter and Bylaws:
>
> http://osdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/inc-articles.pdf
> http://osdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bylaws.pdf
>
> Nathan
>
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