Re: IEEE Spectrum, "Open-Source Voting"

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Fri Oct 03 2008 - 16:11:51 CDT

Interesting point. It's a good reason for having in-precinct
scanners that allow for voter verification that the ballot was read
and interpreted correctly whenever hand-marked paper ballots are
marked by voters in the precinct.

Best regards,
Arthur

At 9:04 AM -0700 10/3/08, Alan Dechert wrote:
>I think Brent makes a good point. Hand marked paper ballots are
>going to be less accurate. There are also overvotes possible with
>hand-marked.
>
>Accuracy issues also become security issues. Anytime ballots get
>kicked out because hand marks need to be interpreted, there is
>opportunity to steal votes.
>
>Alan D.
>
>>Every time I've witnessed the counting of voter marked paper ballots, the
>>election officials attribute the system's lack of accuracy to the errant pen
>>markings on the ballots. Brent Turner
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ovc-discuss-bounces+brent=trealestate.net@listman.sonic.net
>>[mailto:ovc-discuss-bounces+brent=trealestate.net@listman.sonic.net] On
>>Behalf Of John-Paul Gignac
>>Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:41 AM
>>To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] IEEE Spectrum, "Open-Source Voting"
>>
>>Just thought I'd chime in...
>>
>>On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Alan Dechert <dechert@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct08/6788
>>>
>>>Besides me, they quote Rebecca Mercuri. It's an okay article, but I think
>>I
>>>should respond to some of the comments by Mercuri.
>>>
>>> The problem with the OVC model, says Rebecca
>>> Mercuri, owner of computer security firm Notable
>>> Software, in Philadelphia, is that while OVC may
>>> be more secure than today's proprietary systems,
>>> it is no more secure than electronically scanning
>>> paper ballots. ?
>>
>>By my understanding of OVC's approach, strictly speaking, I think I
>>would agree with her statement. But it misses the point. Paper
>>ballots are about as secure as you can get, and I think that OVC is on
>>par with that. Compared to electronically scanning paper ballots,
>>OVC's advantages include usability, accessibility and counting
>>accuracy.
>>
>>John-Paul
>
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