Re: [FWD: RE: [vote-technology] Booted out of the Hotel at the 2007 Post-Election Auditing Summit]

From: Nancy Tobi <nancy_dot_tobi_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Sat Oct 27 2007 - 15:45:49 CDT

Does anyone else think this whole episode sounds like a crock?

A total waste of anyone's time to engage, IMHO.

On 10/27/07, David RR Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info> wrote:
>
> FYI,
>
> DW
>
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [vote-technology] Booted out of the Hotel at the 2007
> > Post-Election Auditing Summit
> >
> > Kathy,
> >
> > Firstly if I was at that event and in the lobby and saw the schrade
> unfolding I would have personally marched you into where those organizers
> were hiding and demanded to know what the dickens was going on.
> >
> > How can the Brennan Center be associated with this?
> >
> > There are several reprecussions from the actions of the organizers.
> >
> > US government employees are barred from attending events where people
> are excluded or discriminated against, or are run by organizations that have
> barred people who wished to attend from their events previously.
> >
> > Therefore - the Brennan Center and the Verified Voting Foundation are
> now off-limits. I notice that many State officials attended the event -
> including Debra Bowen (California Secretary of State)- whom I'm sure would
> be appalled to know that people were excluded from the event she keynoted.
> >
> > Also people how are receiving funding to attend - again could find their
> funds in jeopardy:
> >
> > http://www.josephhall.org/nqb2/index.php/2007/10/27/mnpeas2
> >
> > This link too is of interest:
> >
> http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2365&Itemid=113
> >
> > One wonders if the organizers specifically excluded you because of your
> support for HR-811?
> >
> > This whole episode needs to be throughly investigated - and the
> organizers need to provide specific reasons and details - who decided to
> exclude you and why - who ordered the hotel manager to act - and on what
> authority and basis.
> >
> > I'm not sure who you notify in government - but I suspect the OMB is the
> first place to look - so that the whole of government can be notified that
> attendence of Brennan Center and VVF events is now excluded.
> >
> > I would also expect Senator Holt to demand an enquiry and answers.
> >
> > Thanks, DW
> >
> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [vote-technology] Booted out of the Hotel at the 2007
> > > Post-Election Auditing Summit
> > > From: "Kathy Dopp" <kathy.dopp@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, October 27, 2007 10:10 am
> > > To: vote-technology@uscountvotes.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, as some of you may be aware, I was booted out of hotel
> > > where the 2007 Post-Election Auditing Summit - although I had not
> > > violated any ordinance, had not even tried to walk into the conference
> > > area, and had been flawlessly polite and friendly; and hotel
> > > management had not received the tiniest complaint about me. I was
> > > literally hounded and harassed from almost the moment I entered the
> > > hotel. Obviously the conference organizers had arranged this reception
> > > prior to my arrival.
> > >
> > > Here is my report of events that I filed with the Bloomington, MN
> police:
> > >
> > >
> http://electionarchive.net/docs_pdf/info/US/AuditingSummitPoliceComplaint.pdf
> > >
> > > This treatment reflects the lack of civil rights and intolerance of
> > > dissent that has characterized this country since 911. I have to say
> > > that dealing with former National Association of State Election
> > > Directors, President Linda Lamone's desire to suppress dissent when I
> > > pushed for election audits at conferences of election directors in
> > > 2005 and 2006 was a walk in the park on a sunny day in comparison with
> > > the behavior of the organizers of the 2007 Post-Election Auditing
> > > Summit.
> > >
> > > No one can say that I did not give it the old college try to work WITH
> > > the organizers of the conference.
> > >
> > > If anyone wants to donate $10,000 for a civil legal action, we would
> > > be able to uncover which conference organizers arranged for my
> > > mistreatment at the election auditing conference and what fabrications
> > > they told the hotel management in order to convince them to harass me
> > > from the minute I walked in the door of the hotel.
> > >
> > > On the plane on the way to the Summit, I had time to finish reading
> > > one of the election auditing papers of one of the presenters at the
> > > Post-Election Auditing Summit, and have just finished writing up
> > > mathematical corrections that need to be made to his paper. Here is a
> > > concise 3-page paper correcting some errors in Berkeley's Philip
> > > Stark's election auditing paper which I had hoped instead to discuss
> > > with him personally at the conference.
> > >
> > >
> http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/Corrections2PhillipStark.pdf
> > >
> > > Stark made an algebraic error in trying to re-derive the formula that
> > > I had previously derived in July 2006, and used a bound which was too
> > > high for the purpose of ensuring correct election outcomes, and that
> > > I had previously more correctly derived and shown in my chronology of
> > > the history of election auditing.
> > >
> > > There will be a follow-up paper coming soon to briefly describe some
> > > prior election work by some of the conference organizers and their
> > > speakers which might explain some of the reasons why some conference
> > > organizers planned measures to prevent me from speaking with any
> > > conference attendees, including state and county election officials
> > > and legislators.
> > >
> > > As most of you are aware, I am an accomplished expert on election
> > > auditing methods and should rightly have been a speaker at any
> > > conference on the topic and certainly permitted to attend. As a human
> > > being, even without my expertise, I should have been permitted to
> > > express my opinions and to freely speak with conference attendees in
> > > the public areas of the conference hotel.
> > >
> > > Here is a chronology of virtually all election auditing work that has
> > > been done since 1975:
> > >
> http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/History-of-Election-Auditing-Development.pdf
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
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