Re: Question re. Ballot Definition Files

From: Richard C. Johnson <dick_at_iwwco_dot_com>
Date: Sun Oct 22 2006 - 10:22:39 CDT

The method used for to accomplish this by Open Voting Solutions, Inc., a startup voting system vendor, is to imprint each ballot with an ID (NOT serial) number and then to check for valid ballots by matching submitted ballots against the retained list of potential ballots. Of course, returned invalidated ballots and uncast, blank ballots should match the remaining numbers.
  For any election using this method, a request for electronic copies of all ballot types generated, the list of printed ballots by ID number by ballot type, and the evidence of matching cast ballots, invalidated ballots and blank ballots should help to solve this problem short of getting copies of the ballots themselves.
  Open Voting Solutions, one of six companies bidding in New York, is about to withdraw due to disagreements with the state over the conduct of the bidding process. The expectation is that other states may erect fewer barriers or different barriers to smaller, newer companies. provides more information about the 100% open source OpenScan precinct scan system.
  -- Dick

Kathy Dopp <> wrote:
Is there any way, given our current shoddy voting equipment, to know a way to request ballot definition files after an election in a way that is verifiably the ballot definitions that were actually used?

Just wondering if there might be a way to do open records requests for ballot definitions after an election and have some sense of receiving the same ballot definitions used during the election. Since these are not proprietary programs and are not election returns, most state laws should theoretically make them publicly available.


Kathy Dopp
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