[OVC-demo-team] Voting paper "trail"?!?

From: Fred McLain <mclain_at_zipcon_dot_net>
Date: Thu Mar 18 2004 - 22:17:21 CST

Hello all,

I have been hearing quite a bit about our project of late and feel the
need to rant. Please put up with me for this one really off demo-topic

I keep getting these e-mails that suggest it's it is a great idea
getting a receipt for your vote, they reference stories like this:


Of course OVC is not doing that, we are creating a *functional* ballot
system where the vote can be recounted.

Imagine, how would you do a recount when computer fraud was found in a
vote? Would you call up the voters and ask for their receipts? Voting
is anonymous, your vote isn't tied to you. You can't know if your vote
was x, y or z on a recount. Receipts can not work.

Call me paranoid, but why is everyone missing the point? Hanging chads
and over votes are a direct result of computerized vote counting that
started back in the mid 60's. We replaced pull lever systems where this
could not happen with punch cards where it can.

- Is Black Box voting an extension of the same problem?

- Are the consumers of the news about this being subtly drawn off a

- Do they understand that receipts are irrelevant in an election where
the voters are anonymous?

Unless the vote is something the voter can see, and is what gets
*counted* and recounted we have a real problem.

Thanks, I've been hearing a lot of this c**p in e-mail and needed to get
this off my chest.


Fred McLain, OVC-Demo Team Lead
mclain () halcyon.com
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler - Albert Einstein.
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