Re: [OVC-demo-team] New contributor

From: Anand Pillai <anand_pillai_at_fastmail_dot_fm>
Date: Fri Jan 30 2004 - 01:17:48 CST

I tried my hand at developing a UI resembing Alan's mockup
using wxPython but I cant say that I achieved much.

I faced problems using wxPython's toolkit. For example, I could
not accurately reproduce the instruction box widget in the mockup
since wxPython's static box widget looks like something totally
different. I tried to create my own static box but the results
were not very good.

Duplicating the mockup exactly would require some hand-coding
of the ui elements and custom widgets, so it is not an easy

My suggestion is to arrive at a general UI model rather than
trying to exactly reproduce Alan's mockup in the demo code, which
might be a tough call.

Does PyQt has a port on Windows? Since we cannot be sure that the
final demo can be restricted to Linux boxes, it will be worthwhile
to find out that.


----- Original message -----
From: "Eron Lloyd" <>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:21:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [OVC-demo-team] New contributor

Regarding distutils, its the new standard python installation framework,
is included in every vanilla-build of the source, so it won't require
dependancy. We wouldn't need any network connection as long as everything
included in the archive file, either.

Regarding the UI, I thought that there was someone doing some work on
that, in
wxPython I believe. Was it all scrapped? I'd be more than happy to
develop a
UI, but I am a committed PyQt developer, as I was never satisfied by
wxPython. I don't know if you've seen the basic ballot UI I sent with my
introduction message.

Looking at Alan's ballot mockup, that's one heck of a lot of work to
flexibly (and quickly), unless I would hard-code the positioning of each
element. I'm trying to limit myself to thinking about the demo, so this
be possible, but I'm really against that for the long run. You'll run
walls fast if you have a ballot as complicated as the recent California
recall contest. I can do several different approaches and see if the
the group's needs.

Firstly, however, I'll need to know about the existing effort, and a move
PyQt (which I'll happily attempt to sell you on!), as I don't want to
step on
anyone's toes...


On Thursday 29 January 2004 8:54 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Eron,
> Our only UI so far is the audio version for the visually impaired. It
> would be great to see a set of requirements including use cases and mock
> up screens for the demo user interface. Are you up for a first cut at
> that?
> I agree that we should move the .pyc files off to the attic. As far as
> Distutils is concerned, any quality open source projects we can build on
> we should use for the demo as long as the dependency is clearly listed
> in our README. A clean install is something that would certainly aide
> our demo. My vote would be to go for it.
> -Fred-

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