Re: Wired: Nation's First Open Source ElectionSoftware Released

From: Brent Turner <brent_at_trealestate_dot_net>
Date: Mon Oct 26 2009 - 20:49:39 CDT

If a co-founder of the EFF is involved (Mitch Kapor), I have to give them
the benefit of a doubt.

 

No "activist " ( or any other ) association should create any benefit of
anything- - looking forward to learning more - BT

 

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From: ovc-discuss-bounces+brent=trealestate.net@listman.sonic.net
[mailto:ovc-discuss-bounces+brent=trealestate.net@listman.sonic.net] On
Behalf Of Nathan Adams
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:28 PM
To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Wired: Nation's First Open Source
ElectionSoftware Released

 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:10 PM, David Mertz <mertz@gnosis.cx> wrote:

Bev Harris sayeth:

 

But again, you gotta wonder: They are "releasing the code" but not all of
the
code. To which I can only comment: Strange, but true.

 

Nathan Adams responded:

 

The article was poorly worded. They have not actually written all of the
code. You can't release code that doesn't exist.

 

It's also worth noting that the code that *is* at their git repository DOES
NOT have any LICENSE notice (with the exception of the Registrar component,
which is labeled as CC-SA). I have inquired to OSDV about their code
license status, but have not yet received any response. If anyone else is
able to obtain clarification on just how they have licensed their code, it
would be great to hear about that.

I don't think there is any conspiracy or sleight-of-hand in not having
written all the code. Every project starts with some code which isn't all
of what it needs to be. But it is also conventional with true FOSS projects
to prominently indicate the rights of users of even that first line of code.
OSDV should do this ASAP.

Unfortunately, we have seen other players in this space who have released
code that claims to be Open Source, but is something less than that on
closer inspection. It heightens concern for clarification of license status
when someone new "releases" (or announces) something.

If a co-founder of the EFF is involved (Mitch Kapor), I have to give them
the benefit of a doubt. However, its not clear if he has anything to do with
OSDV or just happened to be at the same panel discussion. In any case, trust
but verify. If there are issues with what they are doing (lack of copyright
& licensing terms), then we should politely and publicly point those out. If
their response is less than forthright, then we will know them by their
actions.

Here are their Charter and Bylaws:

http://osdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/inc-articles.pdf
http://osdv.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bylaws.pdf

Nathan

 

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