Re: [OVC-discuss] Wired: Nation's First Open Source Election Software Released

From: Dylan Hirsch-Shell <dylanhs_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Mon Oct 26 2009 - 19:50:03 CDT

Trust The Vote posted a comment below the article that says in part:

"Its not quite right to suggest we are trained on L.A. County adopting our
work… just yet. We are definitely interested in supporting the efforts of
the VSAP (Voting Systems Assessment Project;
http://www.lavote.net/Voter/VSAP/) in L.A. County; its a huge undertaking
with some spot-on vision. And yes, we believe that the ballot ecosystem
framework we’re developing (which really can ensure accuracy, trust,
transparency and security) is in line with their vision. However, we do
*not* have any “system” per-se that we want them to adopt. They need to
complete their VSAP process first, and believe when they do, what will
result is an alignment with many aspects of our framework. One key finding
we expect them to make (and we’ll discuss this in detail on our blog shortly
at http://www.trustthevote.org) is that the Federal Certification process is
antiquated if not obsolete for the technology innovation required to restore
trust in voting systems. That noted, one thing we didn’t say much about Wed
evening (not the right audience, frankly), is that we have considerable
design effort underway to create something that can help NIST/EAC re-think
the certification process, by decoupling software into a device independent
layer from the hardware used to cast and count ballots. We think this is
essential, but that’s another discussion rat-hole"

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Alan Dechert <dechert@gmail.com> wrote:

> Remember, this is the same Kim Zetter that wrote this b.s. article about
> the Australian open source voting system.
>
> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2003/11/61045
>
> There never was an Australian open source voting system. I debunked
> that claim several times, and needed to debunk it again because ETC
> repeated some of the same garbage
> (http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2003/11/61045 )
>
> Anyway, the truth of the matter may require a little digging.
>
> The main thing I get from this is that Dean Logan is serious about going
> for an open source solution. I've been saying that for a while, and this
> confirms it.
>
> It appears that OSDV is trying to take advantage of the spade work done
> by OVC. What if they joined OVC?
>
> I see no evidence that OSDV has thought through the architectural issues
> and standards issues and business model issues as OVC has done.
>
> I don't understand the part about OSDV's registration system. CA
> recently awarded a contract for that to a company in Chicago.
>
>
> http://www.catconsult.com/content/news/news_detail.aspx?nID=157&t=Catalyst%20Awarded%20California%20Statewide%20Voter%20Registration%20System%20(VoteCal)%20Contract%20&yID=2009<http://www.catconsult.com/content/news/news_detail.aspx?nID=157&t=Catalyst%20Awarded%20California%20Statewide%20Voter%20Registration%20System%20%28VoteCal%29%20Contract%20&yID=2009>
>
> http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/votecal_home.htm
>
> Anyway, I think the OVC idea will compete well against all comers. In
> our meeting Sep 28th, Logan said he would make his recommendation to the
> Board of Supervisors in June of next year. It's been 8.5 years since LA
> Supervisor Antonovich ask the LA Reg Recorder for a feasibility study of
> my idea (http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/ad/antonovich32201.pdf ).
> And it's been 6+ years since OVC started with this discussion list.
> Another 6 months or so won't kill us. We have to show up for the
> meetings and respond to what's going on there. We have to make our
> points. We have the right idea. I think that idea will prevail.
>
> Alan D.
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:12 -0700, Arthur Keller wrote:
> > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/open-source
> >
> > Nation's First Open Source Election Software Released
> >
> > * By Kim Zetter Email Author
> > * October 23, 2009 |
> > * 12:14 pm |
> > * Categories: E-Voting, Elections
> >
> > LOS ANGELES - A group working to produce an open
> > and transparent voting system to replace current
> > proprietary systems has published its first
> > batches of code for public review.
>
>
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