Re: Vote for Lizard People in MN?

From: Dylan Hirsch-Shell <dylanhs_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Tue Nov 25 2008 - 14:10:05 CST

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:09 AM, <> wrote:

> There also appears to be an "X" over the vote for Franken. I imagine
> Minnesota has a law regarding determining voter intent.

The "X" might be *under* the vote for Franken. (i.e. the voter may have
initially marked all their votes with "X"s and then realized that they
needed to fill them in completely instead. You'll notice that there's an "X"
on the Presidential vote also.) Voter intent in this case is in the eye of
the beholder.

This is also a good time to think outside the box. We shouldn't direct our
> attention only at the ballot count and related equipment. We should
> be looking at all aspects of elections. The Targeted Audit Recount is
> designed to audit all aspects of an election. That's why it includes an
> optional mailing to all voters who voted to see if they exist.
> The Heritage Foundation produced a report this past July 10th regarding
> voter registrations and voting by non-citizens who are registered by
> accident (and some non-accidents) because of The National Voter Registration
> Act of 1993 (Motor Voter). One of our federal courts used voter
> registration lists to call prospective jurors and found 3% of 30,000
> prospective jurors called couldn't serve on juries because they weren't
> citizens.

I doubt that very many of the 3% of non-citizen registered voters found by
that court actually made it to the polls to vote. Besides, my feeling is
that citizenship is not some magical condition that automatically bestows
wisdom and integrity upon a person, and likewise lack of citizenship does
not preclude wisdom or integrity. If someone cares enough to bother to
register to vote and then takes the time to drag their butt down to the
polling booth to cast a vote, then I don't really see the point in
vigorously attempting to make their vote invalid on citizenship grounds.

I realize that this view will probably make the anti-illegal alien crowd
very angry, but it's just how I feel. Especially since barely 2/3 of
citizens even bother to register to vote themselves, and of those barely 70%
bother to even go to the polls on election day. In a sense, an illegal
alien who manages to register to vote and casts a ballot is MORE of a
citizen than an American-born citizen who has never registered to vote, or
who has registered but has never voted.

Also, I like Charlie's idea of random selection of winners in races that are
within the margin of error of the voting system. Though it might be tricky
to choose the margin appropriately.

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