Re: How difficult is software? [Re: OVC-discuss Digest, Vol 37, Issue 18]

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Tue Nov 27 2007 - 05:13:54 CST

At 2:20 AM -0800 11/27/07, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>On Nov 27, 2007 12:35 AM, Danny Swarzman <> wrote:
>> Are there studies on overvotes. Does this happen often in a paper ballot
>> that is intelligently set up? It seems like a lot of effort goes into this.
>Overvoting is common, and I am not talking about the double-punched
>butterfly ballots where people poked the hole above Gore, not knowing
>it was a vote for Buchanan, and then punched the hole for Gore. Yes,
>there are studies. Google is your friend.
>Double punching, stray pencil marks, marking way outside the circles,
>all are ways to overvote in different voting technologies. Voting for
>more than M candidates in M-out-of-N races is common. There are other

Alan Kay (of Xerox PARC) said that the best way to predict the future
was to invent it.

In my opinion, the best way to deal with overvotes is to treat them
as votes for all the candidates concerned. Amazingly enough, that
concept has a formal name. It's called Approval Voting.

No overvotes by definition. And overvotes (on the infamous Butterfly
ballot) was one of the justifications for ballot checking for all
voters, which in turn was a justification for HAVA's encouragement of
electronics not just for those with visual or physical impairments.

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
tel +1(650)424-0202, fax +1(650)424-0424
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