Re: Peer Hand Counting

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Wed Nov 14 2007 - 07:59:27 CST

At 12:22 PM -0600 11/13/07, Bev Harris wrote:
>Quoting Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org>:
>
>> Bev, very interesting idea. It does not solve
>> the problem with overvotes. Overvotes (on the
>> infamous Butterfly ballot) and accessibility were
>> the reasons for real-time ballot checking.
>
>Simple to solve the problem of overvotes. Use a scanner as a checker
>only, not a
>counter. Voter votes, runs ballot through scanner for a check, then deposits
>the ballot in translucent ballot box. Photos of those are on BBV
>site, they are
>used in other countries, very inexpensive.

Good point.

>Yes, we should still have open source systems for several reasons. The two
>concepts are not at all mutually exclusive. Particularly in any
>system which is
>activated with a card, such as accessible touch-screen ballot
>marking concepts,
>all components should be open source to ensure that voter privacy stealers
>aren't incorporated into the card encoder or recipient machine.

Agreed.

>Yes, the conceptual work originated with Anwar Adi, who I have been
>in frequent
>communication with over the years. Adi put forth a concept paper at VoComp,
>brilliant and simple.

I saw it at VoComp and was intrigued.

>My suggestion now has to do with imminent elections in 2008. Because it simply
>involves slight changes in procedures, no new laws, it can be implemented in
>any county that's willing, ASAP. Also, for the short run (until open source
>solutions arrive) it provides real, meaningful traction for public
>authentication of elections WITHOUT BUYING ANY NEW EQUIPMENT (in optical scan
>counties).

The ballots can be randomly ordered prior to scanning to assure
privacy. And this can also be done even when there isn't
precinct-count optical scan. Of course, the process isn't as helpful
when the reporting is not segmented by precinct in a timely manner.

Best regards,
Arthur

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