Re: Peer Hand Counting

From: Richard C. Johnson <dick_at_iwwco_dot_com>
Date: Tue Nov 13 2007 - 14:47:00 CST

Bev,

This sounds quite workable, with supervised voters appearing at polling places and observing balloting rules, regulations, and laws, dropping their ballots into a ballot box for later scanning. The ballot boxes themselves could be tracked, signed for, and controlled to prevent chicanery. Then, a witnessed scanning at a central location would be free of the problems associated with absentee voting.

The central scan is simply the cheapest way to go; both images of the scanned ballot and actual paper ballots are left for audit and other purposes. The only drawback is: no warning to voters of over votes or under votes.

Best wishes,

-- Dick

Bev Harris <bev@blackboxvoting.org> wrote: How about simply allowing the public to observe and videotape votes fed into
scanners?

Procedural changes require only that votes are scanned after polls close, not
during, that scanners be positioned so that the public can view each ballot
face as it is fed into the machine at the polls, and feeding ballots one by one
at 4-second intervals to allow each ballot to be captured on video by the
public if they so choose.

And please, don't say this allows vote selling unless you are publicly on record
objecting to absentee voting on the grounds that it allows vote selling.

I see only the following objections to this:

1) crypto people fighting for crypto wanting to block other solutions
2) open source people thinking open source solves the public oversight equation,
thinking this will water down arguments for open source

The math works (at 4 seconds per ballot, you can scan over 1000 per hour)
The implementation schedule works (requires no new laws in most states, only
minor procedural changes)

Solves chain of custody issues, solves the issue of counting votes in public,
solves many Freedom of Information issues.

Bev

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