Re: Peer Hand Counting

From: Bev Harris <bev_at_blackboxvoting_dot_org>
Date: Tue Nov 13 2007 - 12:22:05 CST

Quoting Arthur Keller <>:

> Bev, very interesting idea. It does not solve
> the problem with overvotes. Overvotes (on the
> infamous Butterfly ballot) and accessibility were
> the reasons for real-time ballot checking.

Simple to solve the problem of overvotes. Use a scanner as a checker only, not a
counter. Voter votes, runs ballot through scanner for a check, then deposits
the ballot in translucent ballot box. Photos of those are on BBV site, they are
used in other countries, very inexpensive.

Yes, we should still have open source systems for several reasons. The two
concepts are not at all mutually exclusive. Particularly in any system which is
activated with a card, such as accessible touch-screen ballot marking concepts,
all components should be open source to ensure that voter privacy stealers
aren't incorporated into the card encoder or recipient machine.

Yes, the conceptual work originated with Anwar Adi, who I have been in frequent
communication with over the years. Adi put forth a concept paper at VoComp,
brilliant and simple.

My suggestion now has to do with imminent elections in 2008. Because it simply
involves slight changes in procedures, no new laws, it can be implemented in
any county that's willing, ASAP. Also, for the short run (until open source
solutions arrive) it provides real, meaningful traction for public
authentication of elections WITHOUT BUYING ANY NEW EQUIPMENT (in optical scan



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