Re: Ms. Tobi's overheated rhetoric

From: Brent Turner <brent_at_openvotingconsortium_dot_org>
Date: Mon Nov 12 2007 - 10:13:37 CST

That's a fun philosophy- The problem is we utilize machines and are most
likely to continue doing s-, therefore any energy on the debate is wasted.
Time is of the essence-


The attempt is multi-pronged- some work toward the abolishment of
machines- Some work on source code issues-


I do both, anticipating we will likely continue to use machines. But
that's just me - BT



From: Arlene Montemarano []
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Ms. Tobi's overheated rhetoric



Yes, exactly. And the problem, as I see it, is that not all people in this
government have benign motives. For those people, computer technology can
be used as a way to conceal, much like the use of "legalese" can be a form
of concealment and obfuscation in the writing of laws. It does not have to
be, but it CAN be.

That is not an acceptable risk to me.

When I joined this list, I believed a better engineered system of
electronics was the answer. It has since become clear to me the entire
concept should be eschewed, in favor of hand counting of paper ballots,
whatever that should cost. Systems for hand counting, it seems to me, can
be "engineered" to work, if smart people design them.

Arthur Keller wrote:

At 7:56 PM -0500 11/11/07, Arlene Montemarano wrote:

Think of the millions and millions of dollars spent in the last few
years on this complex technology using electrons.

There are many on this list who would agree with the statement that a
better voting system should have been designed before spending
millions and millions of dollars on faulty equipment. Where we
differ is whether there is a role for technology in voting systems.
Best regards,


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