Re: Ms. Tobi's overheated rhetoric

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Mon Nov 12 2007 - 01:24:42 CST

At 11:02 PM -0800 11/11/07, Arthur Keller wrote:
>At 8:47 PM -0800 11/11/07, Ronald Crane wrote:
>>Arthur Keller wrote:
>>> ...New Hampshire consists mainly of small towns. How would you
>>> hand-count the one million or so votes in the City of Los Angeles or
>>> the well over one million votes in the City of New York? Would you
>>> use computers to record and sum up the totals from each precinct? Or
>>> would you do that on an abacus?
>>This is uncalled-for and indeed absurd. The objection is to voting
>>systems that can't effectively be supervised by most members of the
>>general public, not to any use of technology whatsoever. Anyone with a
>>calculator (which means well-nigh everyone) can total the precincts.
>>Indeed, anyone with paper, a pencil, some patience, and a modicum of
>>ingenuity can repeatably total a thousand 3-4 digit numbers in about an
>Consider the case of Los Angeles County, with about 1,000 precincts.
>(Elections are run by the Los Angeles County, not City.) That Daly
>City ballot I mentioned with 8 regular races, 2 multi-candidate
>races, and 23 yes/no propositions and measures had 99 distinct
>marking locations. So each precinct would have about 100 totals, so
>we're talking about about 100,000 precinct numbers for the Los
>Angeles County, not a thousand. (Santa Clara County has about 1,100

Correction: In the 2006 election, there were 5,000 precincts in Los
Angeles County, according to the California Secretary of State report.

>I think the hardest problem would be avoiding transcription errors in
>copying the 100,000 numbers to the correct places on the total sheets.
>Would you display incremental results to the public on a website? Or
>would you wait until all results are in before displaying anything?
>Best regards,

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
tel +1(650)424-0202, fax +1(650)424-0424
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