Re: Ms. Tobi's overheated rhetoric

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Mon Nov 12 2007 - 01:02:25 CST

At 8:47 PM -0800 11/11/07, Ronald Crane wrote:
>Arthur Keller wrote:
>> ...New Hampshire consists mainly of small towns. How would you
>> hand-count the one million or so votes in the City of Los Angeles or
>> the well over one million votes in the City of New York? Would you
>> use computers to record and sum up the totals from each precinct? Or
>> would you do that on an abacus?
>>
>This is uncalled-for and indeed absurd. The objection is to voting
>systems that can't effectively be supervised by most members of the
>general public, not to any use of technology whatsoever. Anyone with a
>calculator (which means well-nigh everyone) can total the precincts.
>Indeed, anyone with paper, a pencil, some patience, and a modicum of
>ingenuity can repeatably total a thousand 3-4 digit numbers in about an
>hour.

Consider the case of Los Angeles County, with about 1,000 precincts.
(Elections are run by the Los Angeles County, not City.) That Daly
City ballot I mentioned with 8 regular races, 2 multi-candidate
races, and 23 yes/no propositions and measures had 99 distinct
marking locations. So each precinct would have about 100 totals, so
we're talking about about 100,000 precinct numbers for the Los
Angeles County, not a thousand. (Santa Clara County has about 1,100
precincts.)

I think the hardest problem would be avoiding transcription errors in
copying the 100,000 numbers to the correct places on the total sheets.

Would you display incremental results to the public on a website? Or
would you wait until all results are in before displaying anything?

Best regards,
Arthur

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