Re: Focus on Rights

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Sun Nov 11 2007 - 14:30:08 CST

Barbara, yes, I'm aware of that problem. Plus one can deliberately
make stray marks. But vote selling can easily occur with
vote-by-mail ballots anyway (unless you allow election day overrides
of vote-by-mail ballots). The question is how you compare
vote-selling risk vs. voting-system error or fraud risk.

Best regards,

At 10:05 AM -0800 11/11/07, Barbara Simons wrote:
>Hi, Arthur. One problem with scanning all the ballots and making those
>scans public is that it could facilitate vote selling, since the person
>selling his/her vote could make some highly unlikely set of choices on
>the ballot as a kind of signature.
>Arthur Keller wrote:
>> At 8:03 AM -0500 11/30/07, Arlene Montemarano wrote:
>>> The protection of our fragile rights should always the primary
>>> point of all that we do.
>> The question boils down to how we best safeguard those rights. If
>> you had the choice of hand-counted paper ballots only vs. paper
>> ballots that were electronically scanned in the precinct when the
>> voter casts the ballot and then hand counted at the end of the day
>> (i.e., both electronic and hand counts), which would you prefer?
>> (Assume the electronic counts are not released until the hand counts
>> are made.) Now suppose that the electronic scanner kept an image
>> copy of the ballot and that anyone could get a copy of all of those
>> images and hand or machine count those images to compare them to the
>> official vote count, would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Do
>> you oppose the inclusion of electronic systems if they supplement
>> rather than replace hand counting? Would you accept the idea that
>> the combination of electronic systems and hand counting can be more
> > secure and fraud or tamper resistent than hand counting alone?

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