Re: VotersUnite Proposals for new Holt Legislation

From: Kathy Dopp <kathy_dot_dopp_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Fri Nov 24 2006 - 15:18:57 CST

On 11/24/06,
> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:03:13 -0800
> From: Danny Swarzman <>
> Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] VotersUnite Proposals for new Holt Legislation

Article 1 Section 4
> The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and
> Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature
> thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such
> Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.
> Doesn't this mean that the Congress has the power to mandate anything
> it wants?

Darnit - I stand corrected again. Thank you Dan.

Even so, the chance of Congress specifying particular voting technology or
prohibiting a particular technology are slim to none. HAVA only provided
funding only for opscan and DREs. Providing no funds to "upgrade" DRE with
paper roll VVPATs, except perhaps one per polling location for disabled
voters, because DREs with VVPT rolls are not fully auditable, might be

VotersUnite proposals seem to imply that prohibiting certain people from
working on equipment during elections would prevent vote tampering. We know
that isn't going to work because it isn't wise to trust everyone who works
for election offices any more than it is to trust everyone who works for
voting machine vendors and even if 100% of local technicians were honest,
that still doesn't prevent vote tampering from other sources as you all


On Nov 23, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
> > #3 while I agree 100% that electronic ballot voting systems should
> > be instantly dumped, it is a violation of the US constitution to
> > mandate particular voting systems which is why the 2002 HAVA law
> > did not mandate any particular voting equipment, but rather only
> > provided funding for certain types of voting equipment, including
> > unfortunately DREs. If you want to eliminate DREs, you must only
> > fund paper ballot systems, not outlaw DREs.

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