Re: Fwd: Question re. audits in Wisconsin

From: Jerry Lobdill <lobdillj_at_charter_dot_net>
Date: Mon Nov 06 2006 - 12:41:22 CST

The Excel spreadsheet function RAND() generates uniform random numbers.

For transparency I prefer the David Dill et al method using 10 sided dice.

Jerry Lobdill

At 12:09 PM 11/6/2006, you wrote:
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>The questions for any random number generator are:
>1. What is the seed, and how is it chosen?
>2. Does the same seed result in the same list of pseudo random numbers?
>Note: good random number generators use functions involving very
>precise clocks or pi or some other function that will NOT allow
>ready prediction of a deterministic result. All random number
>generators are not created equal.
>The real question, then, is still the transparancy of the
>process. How are things done and who gets to know about it and who
>controls how it works?
>-- Dick
>Kathy Dopp <> wrote:
>I have this same question for Utah - although they may select a
>different random number generator program.
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Paul Malischke <<>>
>Date: Nov 5, 2006 9:14 PM
>Subject: audits in Wisconsin
>To: <>
>The Wisconsin State Elections Board completed the procedure for
>audits of vote counts over the weekend. They plan to use Excel's
>random number generator for selecting which areas are audited. I am
>not familiar with this. Does it meet our goal of a transparent
>method of selection?
>The procedures are at
>Thanks for your help,
>Paul Malischke

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