Re: NYTimes.com Article: Margin Now Just 42 Votes in Washington State Race

From: Fred McLain <mclain_at_zipcon_dot_net>
Date: Thu Nov 25 2004 - 12:37:37 CST

One thing is certain about Washington's governor's election. Those of
us who want a paper ballot are going to have a happy turkey day!

To all of you, best wishes for this Thanksgiving. Thank you for helping
make our votes count.

        -Fred-

On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 10:24 -0800, Rick Gideon wrote:
> Sam Reed provided emergency provisional cerification for not only ES&S
> optical scan machines, but also the Diebold models used in King county.
> For a total of 6 counties (mainly the most populous counties). So
> since this software was untested and uncertified we have an interesting
> predicament.
>
> Both Kitsap and Pierce counties have voted for a democratic governor
> since, I believe, 1980. Why all of a sudden has it switch to a win for
> Rossi in both of these counties? Obviously we can look at the factor that
> both of these counties are using ES&S op-scan readers with this
> uncertified software on it.
>
> A hand-recount will show for sure, so I couldn't be happier that it looks
> like it is going to happen.
>
> rick
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Fred McLain wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 01:30 -0800, Arthur Keller wrote:
> > > Looks like Fred McLain got his wish.
> >
> > Almost. I voted for Laura Ruderman (http://www.lauraruderman.com/?
> > fa=home.agenda) instead of Sam Reed. Reed doesn't understand electronic
> > voting and provided provisional certification of the ES&S software
> > against state regulations - even though he had plenty of time to get our
> > tally software though federal testing. Ruderman made a paper ballot the
> > core of her run for SoS. This was another very close race. Well over
> > 70% of Washington's voters are now using absentee ballots - tallied by
> > ES&S's software.
> >
> > A really funny thing about this election is that no one had heard of
> > this Rossi guy before the election. Gregoire is a well known, and well
> > liked political figure here. How the heck did this election come out so
> > close?!? Maybe I should watch TV...
> >
> > Now we'll see how they plan to "hand recount" the DRE systems they use
> > in my county.
> >
> > -Fred-
> >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > > The article below from NYTimes.com
> > >
> > > Margin Now Just 42 Votes in Washington State Race
> > >
> > > November 25, 2004
> > > By SARAH KERSHAW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SEATTLE, Nov. 24 - The election was already achingly close,
> > > but the recount in the race for governor of Washington
> > > State was almost absurdly close, the results showed
> > > Wednesday. Former State Senator Dino Rossi, the Republican
> > > who was declared the winner last week by 261 votes, won the
> > > recount by a mere 42, of almost three million cast.
> > >
> > > And the bizarre contest is anything but settled. Democrats
> > > said the vote - 48.8717 percent to 48.8702 percent, as
> > > recounted by machine - was far too close for their
> > > candidate, State Attorney General Christine Gregoire, to
> > > concede. They said they would request a third count, this
> > > one by hand, possibly featuring the inspection of, yes,
> > > chads.
> > >
> > > Ms. Gregoire said Wednesday evening that her party was
> > > challenging specific results in several counties, but she
> > > declined to say whether the recount, which the party is
> > > guaranteed under state law, would be held in only some
> > > counties or in all of the state's 39. The Democrats have a
> > > week to decide.
> > >
> > > "Well, the race continues," she said at a news conference
> > > in Seattle. "It's a 42-vote difference. My friends, it is a
> > > tied race. Some folks have suggested we ought to flip a
> > > coin or stage a duel with Senator Rossi. My personal
> > > preference is we ought to recount every single vote."
> > >
> > > Mr. Rossi, a commercial real estate agent, was on vacation
> > > but issued a statement saying, "This process has lasted a
> > > lot longer than anyone thought it would, but I'm grateful
> > > that the people of Washington have placed their trust in
> > > me."
> > >
> > > The election has been by far the closest in the history of
> > > this state, which has various types of voting systems,
> > > including punch cards and optical scanners.
> > >
> > > "I've been in the election business for 33 years, and I'm
> > > astonished," Secretary of State Sam Reed, an elected
> > > Republican, said Wednesday afternoon at a news conference
> > > in Olympia, the state capital. "When they gave me these
> > > results, I must admit I was stunned. We are talking about
> > > such a small percentage of difference that it is almost
> > > unbelievable."
> > >
> > > Bitter feuding between the two parties, which had already
> > > sparred in court over the vote count here in heavily
> > > Democratic King County, was renewed only seconds after the
> > > final results of the five-day recount came in Wednesday
> > > afternoon. Democrats maintained that the voting machines
> > > were fallible. Republicans accused the Democrats of
> > > plotting to cherry-pick, suggesting that they would seek a
> > > hand recount only in Democratic-leaning counties.
> > >
> > > "The most important thing is that people have confidence
> > > that their governor was elected and was credibly elected,"
> > > said Kirstin Brost, a Democratic spokeswoman. "People have
> > > to have confidence in the process. If we were talking about
> > > a difference of 5,000 votes it would be a very different
> > > story, but we are talking about a difference that is less
> > > than one one-hundredth of 1 percent."
> > >
> > > Several members of Mr. Rossi's transition team held a news
> > > conference outside his campaign headquarters in Bellevue,
> > > east of Seattle.
> > >
> > > "The votes have been counted twice," said one team member,
> > > Kathy Lambert, a King County councilwoman. "We know very
> > > clearly who won."
> > >
> > > J. Vander Stoep, Mr. Rossi's transition chief of staff,
> > > said, "A lot of lawyers are either buying plane tickets or
> > > they are here already, on both sides."
> > >
> > > "That's Christine Gregoire's choice," he added, "whether to
> > > unleash that and turn this into Florida the Second, or
> > > whether to say two counts is enough."
> > >
> > > Mr. Rossi's 261-vote victory last week, coming two weeks
> > > after Election Day and delayed by the counting of hundreds
> > > of thousands of absentee ballots, automatically brought a
> > > machine recount under Washington's election laws. Any
> > > political party can then request a further count, by
> > > machine or hand, but the party must shoulder the cost. That
> > > cost would be some $700,000 if the Democrats demanded that
> > > the new recount take place in all 39 counties.
> > >
> > > If that recount, even if held in only one county, were to
> > > change the outcome of the election, making Ms. Gregoire the
> > > winner, then Secretary of State Reed would be required to
> > > order another, final, statewide count, this one by hand
> > > since that was what the Democrats demanded Wednesday for
> > > the second recount. The cost of the final count would be
> > > paid by the state, Mr. Reed said Wednesday.
> > >
> > > The next count could last weeks, even though Mr. Reed said
> > > he and the current governor, Gary Locke, a Democrat who
> > > decided not to run again, would certify Mr. Rossi as the
> > > governor-elect on Tuesday. The parties have until three
> > > days after the certification to request a recount.
> > >
> > > The results of both the initial count and the recount were
> > > stunners, because Ms. Gregoire had been expected to win
> > > easily. The state's voters here had not sent a Republican
> > > to the governor's mansion since 1980.
> > >
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/25/national/25gov.html?ex=1102374687&ei=1&en=df8ee0dec0c82f85
> > >
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