Re: Regarding tape security

From: Fred McLain <mclain_at_zipcon_dot_net>
Date: Fri Nov 12 2004 - 18:59:10 CST

In early American voting folks just went to the local tavern, stood on
the side of the candidate they supported and shouted out their votes.
They often got free drinks afterword. Talk about turning out the vote!

Much the same verification occurs today. We have representatives who
stand in for the candidates. They make sure the votes are counted
accurately. When tallying the vote we need these folks, not keys, to be
the gatekeepers. During a witnessed tally of the votes, I don't think
we really need a key. Forgive me that I suggested physical security was
an issue earlier.

    -Fred-

On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 09:31, Jim March wrote:
> Robert Rapplean wrote:
>
> >>> ROTFL. The checkout clerks replace the tape rolls when they are
> >>> full. The only security on a point-of-purchase machine is
> >>> typically a hardware key, and there are a lot of well-known ways
> >>> to pick a lock or con a clerk into opening the machine for you.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to insert a bit of technical expertise here. Your standard flat
> >> key lock is, in fact, pretty easy to pick. Ring keys (the ones with the
> >> circular heads), as found on many computer locks are much more difficult
> >> time consuming to pick, even if you have the right tools. Conning a
> >> voting clerk to open one of these for you would be a tad more difficult
> >> than a grocery store clerk, I think.
> >
>
> Unless of course you have access to a common Bic pen.
>
> You take the pen "body" and strip everything out of it front and rear,
> leaving a thick plastic "straw" the same diameter as the ring key hole.
> You then jam the end of the "straw" in the hole. The plastic is soft
> enough that the tumblers that won't depress will jam into the plastic,
> yet the plastic is hard enough to otherwise operate the lock.
>
> Bike thieves figured this out on Kryptonite locks that use this
> mechanism but ALL circular-end "ring keys" of this standard diameter are
> vulnerable.
>
> A *good* quality conventional lock is best...most, as used in cash
> registers and the like, are crud.
>
> Jim
>
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