Re: Strange patterns by voting machine in florida e-voting??

From: Teresa Hommel <tahommel_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Mon Nov 08 2004 - 22:03:38 CST

In a democracy where everyone is an American first and a supporter of a
political party second, the investigation and correction of election
system anomalies would be every patriot's duty.

Teresa Hommel

Alan Dechert wrote:

>Dear voting-project list participants:
>
>Just a reminder. From our Bylaws:
>
>"(a) Vision and Mission: Our vision is a world in which voting systems are
>inexpensive, readily available, reliable, easy to use, accessible,
>universal, transparent, auditable, and produce verifiable election results.
>Our mission is to develop, maintain, and deliver a universal open voting
>system for use in public elections." [footnote: Doug Jones says this should
>be "systems " i.e., plural ... we'll probably change this accordingly as we
>have on our home page]
>
>While I do see investigations of election system anomalies helpful, I'm not
>sure that organizing volunteers in this way is central to the OVC mission.
>I am sure that the last thing we want is for OVC to appear to be overladen
>with partisan sour grapes.
>
>Alan D.
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>>Patricia Gracian said:
>>
>>
>>>I love this idea. I don't know how one gets all the phone numbers. But
>>>we had armies of volunteers making calls to get out the vote, so we
>>>could get one of those organizations involved to get the job done.
>>>There's nothing like an actual count. Let me know if you don't find
>>>someone to do it and I'll try to contact some groups that were making
>>>calls.
>>>
>>>
>>Well, I'd rather put those armies of volunteers to work on gathering data
>>we need from each county to further analyze and double-check our results.
>>i.e. we still need by county election results by ballot type and vote
>>counting method for each ballot type for early, precinct, absentee, and
>>provisional votes. The numbers are publicly available, but must be
>>obtained w/ manual phone calls.
>>
>>As to a poll of Liberty county, I would rather leave that to a competent
>>pollster who knows what he/she is doing and can evaluate whether a small
>>county like Liberty would be a valid sample because it is likely that for
>>analysis, we need to ignore data from smaller counties. (see
>>http://ustogether.org/election04/Little_Analysis.html ) Although an
>>informal poll might be helpful, I wouldn't want to piss people off and I'm
>>not sure it's even legal to ask people how they voted and who's to tell if
>>they would even tell the truth about how they cast their ballot. I don't
>>know enough about polling myself, but perhaps you know more about it than
>>I do and would feel more comfortable conducting a poll.
>>
>>I know my first reaction was that it was a great idea, but I've reflected
>>a little on how it might be done and decided that I don't know enough to
>>venture one.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Kathy
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Robert Rapplean" <robert@rapplean.net>
>>>To: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
>>>Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:13 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Strange patterns by voting machine in
>>>florida e-voting??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, let's talk about Liberty County, folks. There are only 4000 or so
>>>>registered voters there, over 3000 of them registered as Dem. And yet
>>>>over 1900 of them voted Republican and 1000 or so voted Republican. I
>>>>think it should be reasonably possible to get on the phone and call
>>>>all of those people and do a survey.
>>>>
>>>>Kathy Dopp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought you might be interested to know that I got 17,000 visitors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>
>>>>>web page yesterday
>>>>>
>>>>>http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>and that statistical analysis is showing, that even with smaller
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>counties removed from the study, the pattern is statistically
>>>>significant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://ustogether.org/election04/Little_Analysis.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I put a small link to OVC on the bottom of the page so you may get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>some traffic from it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>i still say that the donation link text is unattractive and needs to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>show something when the mouse moves over it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>--
>>Kathy Dopp
>>Utah Count Votes
>>http://UtahCountVotes.org
>>phone: 435-608-1382
>>
>>"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was
>>and never will be . . . The People cannot be safe without information.
>>When the press is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe."
>>Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth they can be
>>depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring
>>them the real facts" Abraham Lincoln
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