Re: BBV FOIA requests

From: Fred McLain <mclain_at_zipcon_dot_net>
Date: Mon Nov 08 2004 - 00:47:46 CST

Hold on there, didn't I mention that inaction is worse then positive
action? Rick, no hard feelings toward you of course, but I strongly
disagree with your statements.

> I am of the opinion that OVC should refrain from endorsing any actions
> regarding the 2004 election and any individual groups.

Of course, voting fraud isn't about individual groups, so I'm not going
there. As a programmer I'd change your statement to say:

// actions regarding the %Y election and any individual groups.

Where %Y is the year. We are trying to make sure every election is a
fair one, ignoring the current election isn't the right route, nor will
it be during the next election. Elections are what this is about.

> The actions being taken, while needed, could be looked at as sour-grapes
> by people who are not educated or knowing of the issues regarding e-voting
> and its pitfalls. Announcing support for any particular action or those
> of other groups may make OVC unattractive and harder to sell in the
> long-run. We want to remain as impartial as necessary.

Yes, *action* is needed. An organization is responsible to it's
members, indeed this is why we have voting. You, and a clear majority
of this group seem to agree that Bev's actions are needed. Should this
group of people restrict their actions based on possible and unfair
interpretation by folks who are likely to be opposed to open voting?
Yes, we are an organization that believes voting should be fair and
open. I, for one, am not willing to be silent because opponents of open
voting might call it sour grapes.

If we're not willing to act, why are we bothering with all of this?


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