Re: Reflections on the election and implications for the OVC

From: Arthur Keller <arthur_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Thu Nov 04 2004 - 00:27:23 CST

David, thanks for your comments. Can you discuss the pros and cons
of reusing voting machines for other non-voting purposes, and vice
versa? That's a part of the Dechert proposal. It seems to improve
the financial equation, but is not required for the Dechert

Best regards,

At 3:30 PM -0800 11/3/04, David Jefferson wrote:
>I suggest that using *generic* PCs for voting machines may not
>work very well:
>1) The have too many ports and devices that you don't want,
> ports: mouse, keyboard, IEEE1384, ethernet, serial,
> telephone, microphone and video in/out
> devices: non-touch-screen, hard disk, optical disk
> speakers, modem, WiFi transceiver
>2) They do not have the devices you DO want integrated with
> touchscreen, Flash reader/writer, smart card reader(?),
>input device
> for the blind, VVPT printers with cutters
>3) They tend to have too much RAM and be way too fast. This is
> for the voting application, and produces temptation to
>fill the
> machines with excess functionality.
>Also I would say that a tablet PC is not "generic". For the
>time being I think they require Windows XP (Tablet Edition), do
>they not? They make sense as exploratory platforms, however.
>--- Joseph Lorenzo Hall <> wrote:
>> > In particular, I would welcome a discussion on the
>> feasibility of
>> > using cheap, generic PCs as electronic voting machines.
>> Certainly
>> > cost is a key benefit. But the difficulties of assembly,
>> set up, and
>> > transport are more problematic. Also, the BVA and the BRP
>> may well
>> > require custom hardware configuration. And the EVM requires
>> a custom
>> > enclosure (although that's not so expense).
>> A friend here at Cal, Ping (best geek first name ever!), has
>> done some
>> interesting stuff by overlaying a touchscreen on a tablet PC
>> (I highly
>> recommend watching the figure to get an idea of how smart Ping
>> is...
>> he's light-years ahead of anyone I know):
>> Two-Handed Interaction on a Tablet Display (from CHI 2004)

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