Re: checking into the 2004 general election

From: Charlie Strauss <cems_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Wed May 25 2005 - 00:57:06 CDT

yeah new mexico has several counties with more votes than cast
ballots in the official certified record. In one case the race for
county clerk, of all races(!), showed 300+ votes cast and the winner
(the incumber clerk) getting over 2000 votes in that precint. Elen
has it on her web site, and you can see it yourselfon the SOS web
site. I pointed it out to the election director and he did not deny
ot or offer any explanation.

I note that in many places, notably ohio, there is this rather dumb
practice of attributing all the absentee votes for an entire
legislative district to a single precint while (inconsitently)
assinging the numbers of ballots cast to the proper precincts. As I
understand it this is an artifact of the limited memory capabiltiy of
the scan systems. the systems are able to count totals in each race
and totals of ballot types, but it cant break down the race totals by
ballot type. hence the seemingly odd way of reporting that always
produced a few precints where the number of absentee votes exceeds
the number of absentee ballots. (they should simply report the
absetnee votes without attributing them to a precint but they dont).

However in the New Mexcio case this is not the issue. those are
actual day-of-voting totals that grossly exceed the number of voters.
they are not absentee ballots. This seems to happen in every
election in some county here.

On May 24, 2005, at 10:21 PM, Teresa Hommel wrote:

> Ellen Theisen of found some very strange info when
> she did this. Have you checked her web site?
> Teresa Hommel
> Stephanie Frank Singer wrote:
>> Hey gang, this is off-topic, but I'd appreciate your input.
>> Has anyone done the following check on the validity of the 2004
>> general election? Each precinct reports a total number of voters,
>> presumably read off of the voting machines or ballot boxes. This
>> number should be the sum of all the votes for each candidate, plus
>> the number of any undervotes.
>> On the other hand, each state has a database of voters, including
>> information about which elections they voted in, presumably taken
>> from the sign-in sheets at the polls. So, if one had that data,
>> one could have an independent count of how many voters voted in a
>> particular precinct in the 2004 general election.
>> Is the comparison of these two numbers practiced by any Boards of
>> Elections?
>> Has any independent entity checked these numbers?
>> Stephanie Frank Singer, Ph.D.
>> Campaign Scientific
>> 215-715-3479
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