Re: flimsy paper?

From: Jim March <jmarch_at_prodigy_dot_net>
Date: Wed May 11 2005 - 01:16:39 CDT

The best deal I found quickly on a scanner was that high-end Canon - it
says it can cope with paper between .05 and .15mm. Dunno how that
translates into "bond weight" or other non-metric measurements.

Jim

Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:

>Hello Lara and Arthur:
>
>IBM and punch cards? They are probably still thinking
>about the old Votomatic system. That's the one with
>the famous hanging and pregnant chads. There are some
>optical ballot scanners that are tough on paper. A
>leading example of an optical scanner that would eat
>regular paper is (surprise!) the Diebold Acuvote.
>It's based on 'marksense' technology and was used in
>the 2004 elections in SD County. While I didn't
>actually try it with regular paper, it sure yanked
>those big San Diego ballots right out of my hand
>pretty hard. However, a typical machine feed scanner
>should have no real problems with standard paper. The
>real answer to the problem is to simply specify that
>the scanner shall work reliably with 20# bond paper
>and possibly specify it to be one misfeed per 5000
>sheets fed. So, I think your person is talking about
>either behavior of low quality or older equipment or
>else is listening to FUD.
>
>Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>
>--- Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I actually prefer 24 lb paper to 20 lb paper.
>>Somewhat sturdier and
>>easily handled by printers and scanners. You can go
>>up to 32 lb
>>without problems on most printers. Using card stock
>>limits the type
>>of printers and scanners to those with a
>>straight-through paper path.
>>
>>Punching holes in the ballots do not make them human
>>verifiable.
>>Barcodes are more reliable than punch cards.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Arthur
>>
>>At 11:44 AM -0500 5/10/05, Lara Shaffer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I talked with someone in Ohio who was very adamant
>>>
>>>
>>that if we used regular
>>
>>
>>>printer paper it wouldn't be thick enough and would
>>>
>>>
>>cause problems (paper
>>
>>
>>>jams, scanning problems if the papers were folded
>>>
>>>
>>or ripped, etc). He
>>
>>
>>>suggested we use thicker paper. He was also a big
>>>
>>>
>>fan of IBM cards and
>>
>>
>>>programming the computer to punch a hole instead of
>>>
>>>
>>print out the name of
>>
>>
>>>the person the voter voted for.
>>>
>>>I promised him I would bring these issues up with
>>>
>>>
>>the developers, so there
>>
>>
>>>you go.... Feel free to respond if you think these
>>>
>>>
>>are valid concerns.
>>
>>
>>>Otherwise, don't worry about it....
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>
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