Re: New to group

From: Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Sun May 08 2005 - 19:33:39 CDT

Hello Curtis:

Welcome aboard Curtis. Are you the Clint Curtis referred to here:
Also, when you say DOT are you referring to a Department of Transportation,
such as FDOT? I'm sure by now you've read our FAQ on our web site so you
are pretty much up to speed on the basics. For more information you can
also check our searchable correspondence archive at: We have had extensive
discussions over the issue of bar codes versus OCR so if you weigh in on
that (after searching the issue in the archives please) I know the rest of
us would be grateful.

Thanks, Edmund R. Kennedy
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Subject: [OVC-discuss] New to group
> My name is Clint Curtis. I am new to the group so it will take me a
> while to get up to speed on what you are doing.
> What I have been proposing is simple open source software that is
> running on a non-networked non-propriety system. This system could be
> done entirely on surplus equipment and thus bring the cost to the
> states down to something that is hard for anyone to refuse.
> One key element is that it would print two receipts. One used for the
> official ballot which would be spot checked against the machine totals
> (counts should match exactly) and the other to be preserved for open
> inspection by any interested party (party as in person not necessarily
> as in political). In the event that the spot checks prove the machine
> totals to be in error, a hand recount can be mandated.
> I am not a fan of the scanning technology. The touch screens can be
> provided for next to nothing and can be equipped with a JAWS system
> (, which
> will make it accessible to the blind. Scanners are inherently
> proprietary and thus add an extra layer of invisibility that can be
> attacked by those with the money and motivation to do so. Might be
> useful to spot check the touch screen count but my experience using
> OCR, barcode, and positional mapping (while doing doc management at
> NASA and DOT) was that their reliability would be less than perfect.
> Have not looked at the systems in the last couple of years but I
> believe the totals would need to match exactly in order restore
> confidence in the voting system.
> That is where my position has been but I am eager to continue to monitor
> the discussion group and learn better ways.
> Clint
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