Re: Shamos Rebuttal, Draft 3

From: Kathy Dopp <kathy_at_uscountvotes_dot_org>
Date: Sun May 08 2005 - 13:54:11 CDT

Ron Crane wrote:

> I disagree with some other edits.
> I am deleting the last item in 5. It's a minor point, and I refuse to
> cite any improperly-conducted poll (such as the ACM's poll on paper
> trails) in any formal paper.
> The qualifications you added to the conclusion weaken it
> substantially, and introduce terms not elsewhere defined ("auditable
> dual data paths", "Best Practices").
> Finally, I am a little confused by your edit in 3.3.

IMO, when you do not accept the edits that people make - then not many
people will be willing to co-sign or make use of your document.

You should try as much as possible to bend over backwards to accept at
least partially, or figure out how to incorporate, all the points that
you are given.

Your paper does not sound at all professional if you overstate things by
refusing to qualify what needs qualifying IMO. And anyone who feels
that qualifications are needed when you refuse to add them because you
feel it will weaken the argument, makes your paper less likely to be
agreed to, less likely to be used, and makes it sound less professional
and less strong than if you acknowledge all the points in it.

I've personally been the writer for many collaborative documents of PhD
computer scientists and PhD mathematicians on the voting and elections
issues over the prior year. It takes a huge amount of time and
intellectual work to figure out ways to come to agreement and to
incorporate everyones' points, but if you want everyone to sign it with
you and you want it to be a useful document, you must acknowledge all
their points in some manner in your paper, and not be so quick to
dismiss the edits people give you in their entirety. Figure out ways to
understand and incorporate their points.

I apologize for the unasked (and perhaps unwelcome) advice.

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