Re: Brand new concept in audit trails

From: Edward Cherlin <cherlin_at_pacbell_dot_net>
Date: Thu May 05 2005 - 17:30:28 CDT

On Wednesday 04 May 2005 14:54, Jim March wrote:

> Well you're missing one aspect of how vote security really
> works. It's connected to the volunteer pollworkers. You have
> four to six or so per precinct, "ordinary people" - in order
> to "paper stuff", you have to have them all be crooked.

ROTFLOL. As a Precinct Inspector in the last election, I could
have gotten away with just about anything in full sight of my
other poll workers, and I had plenty of time with none of them
about except the blind one (yes). Well, OK, not *anything*, but
I had no trouble recognizing a dozen holes in the procedures. I
was a Trusted Person. I could have put extra votes on the
machines and fiddled the signatures and counts afterwards, or
stuffed the ballot box with absentee and provisional ballots, or
held back paper ballots, or told people to vote
incorrectly...with nobody the wiser. If I knew how to activate
malware in the machines, I wouldn't have to bother with any of

> Not
> too likely, esp. not across multiple precincts.

If getting one party loyalist on staff at each precinct could let
you steal an election, would it happen? Certainly. In my
original home town, Chicago, and my adopted home town, Newark
NJ, the Democrats had plenty more than one loyalist on each
team. They claimed that didn't take more than five minutes with
a screwdriver to fiddle (closed-source) hardware voting

> At the end of
> the day these people tally up their precinct's votes and post
> the numbers. If somebody tries to stuff more paper in back at
> elections HQ, the numbers won't add up.

Only if we have the full electronic audit trail. See "Landslide"
Lyndon Johnson for a counterexample otherwise.

Edward Cherlin
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