Re: Brand new concept in audit trails

From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Wed May 04 2005 - 18:23:52 CDT

On 5/4/05, Ron Crane <> wrote:
> On May 4, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Jim March wrote:
> >
> > Let's be clear: in any state, any county, you can ask for and GET the
> > votes cast in any precinct you care to name. That's current law,
> > current procedure.
> Can I get the *ballots* cast in each precinct? Or only the precinct
> totals? If the former, then it would seem that my objection already has
> been overridden.

I think this is the essential problem that makes me, as a privacy
researcher, uneasy.

It's the *correlation* between votes cast (for each contest on a
ballot) being publicly available with little bar to access that is the
problem. That's why I thought that having ballots where each contest
is physically separated (and then shuffled) from all other contests
would eliminate this problem.

I don't know of any system that publishes information on all cast
ballots for polling places (and would love to know of one if anyone
knows one).

(However, I must say, it would be really neat from a statistical point
of view to have this kind of information to see if people who vote
certain ways are more likely to undervote, etc.)

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
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