Re: Brand new concept in audit trails

From: Jim March <jmarch_at_prodigy_dot_net>
Date: Wed May 04 2005 - 01:28:30 CDT

Arthur Keller wrote:

> At 10:07 PM -0700 5/3/05, Jim March wrote:
>> Joseph, the "complexity for the pollworkers" issue is why I'm leaning
>> towards single printer, two-part forms that have to be split back at
>> county elections HQ. This way, the voter is handling just "one
>> sheet" and the paper is going into "one box" exactly in traditional
>> fashion.
> Two part forms use carbon or are carbonless ("NCR paper"). NCR paper
> has a limited shelf-life and is sensitive to heat. Carbon copies are
> sensitive to pressure until separated, and the carbon is a tremendous
> amount of material to be recycled that contains vote data. I suppose
> the county could make money by selling the carbons to the highest
> bidder. ;-)

I'm leaning towards "NCR paper". I've worked with the stuff before and
I believe it'll be adequate for the public audit purpose. As to
durability, it only has to last 22 months and I don't see how heat will
be a big issue?

But if we used carbon, well...if we're willing to show the second paper
copy to the public AND the publish the electronic version on CD-ROM and
on the 'net, how in hell are the carbons any sort of security problem?
A BULK problem, yeah...

> The question does arise whether individual votes are published or
> whether only vote tallies by ballot type by precinct by in-place,
> absentee or provisional are published.
> I'd like to hear from privacy experts about the merits or demerits of
> publishing individual votes (identified only by precinct and ballot
> type, and perhaps by voting machine). I know that this is an issue
> that Kelly raised on Sunday's OVC tech (not tek, please) meeting.

I agree, I'd like more input there too. My gut feeling is that it is
NOT a problem.

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