Re: Brand new concept in audit trails

From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Tue May 03 2005 - 23:24:10 CDT

On 5/3/05, Jim March <> wrote:
> And that's the key. "Box one" ballots go into that box, which goes back
> to county elections HQ. "Box two" end up in binders, one or two binders
> per precinct depending on turnout, precinct size, etc.
> The binders can be "checked out and inspected" at a county office by
> interested members of the public - in the same fashion, I can already go
> down to a county election office and say "show me the campaign finance
> binders for the mayor for 2003" or whatever.

While I'm mostly braindead at the moment due to the end of the school
semester, this makes me feel uneasy. Let me play the devil's advocate
here and voice what makes me feel uneasy...

(I'm assuming that the public ballots would at least be shuffled
before being placed in the binder)

>From a ballot privacy perspective, it is a whole new world when anyone
can check out copies of full, voted ballots. For example, it could be
that the last thirty votes were printed on a printer that is either
out of ink or, however, leaves some sort of different mark on the
ballot. By checking out the ballots in binder-form, you'd be able to
reduce the amount of ballots from which to figure out how someone

Shuffling the ballots and then doing something that would (at least,
in effect) reprint them in a standard format would help to eliminate
this. However, then there's still special write-in votes (intentional
or unintentional).

Something that would eliminate all of this would be to physically
seperate the individual contests on a ballot. In effect, have a
special shredder that could take a ballot style and slice the ballot
up into a bunch of races.

Alright, I'm starting to sound crazy... hopefully, there's something
in the past few paragraphs that makes sense. best, Joe

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
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