Re: Brand new concept in audit trails

From: Keith Copenhagen <K_at_copetech_dot_com>
Date: Tue May 03 2005 - 23:21:28 CDT

A couple of points...

I'd like to point out that with two copies of the ballot, you have
lost the fundmental singularity that is casting the vote. There is always
some finite possibility that the identical copies will be different.
jam, ink drop-out, malfeasance)
However, I suspect that there is an opportunity to build the redundancy
and auditability in after the vote is tabulated.

I seem to remember a discussion on this forum about a 3rd world election
that included a backup copy that was mailed in. This starts connecting to
post election statstical analysis as a trigger for audit.

There is, of course, the competing interests of being able to audit your
ballot and
also keeping it private.


On Tue, 3 May 2005 20:56:19 -0700, Ed Kennedy <> wrote:

> Hello Jim:
> Actually, I like Joe Lunchbucket but Aunt Millie will do fine. We had
> been talking about ink jet or laser printers. I think this scheme would
> work better with two ink jet printers. The ballots can be essentially
> a duplicate without any changes in the design except for a screened,
> "Audit Only Copy," printed on the ballot vertically while they are being
> produced but in a way to not obscure the actual votes. I'm a little
> confused on where we would put the second printer for each voting
> machine or who would go around and pick up the second ballot. The model
> we had been looking at was a cpu and a printer attached under a table,
> say in some sort of thick plastic basket. I guess we could find room
> for another printer and perhaps some sort of bin that the second
> printer's output would drop into. Then these audit only ballots would
> be picked up after the closing of the poll. Still, considering the
> ability level of a typical poll worker there's going to have to be a lot
> of training. Let's keep working on this. One thing for sure though,
> you have to be clear to express that this isn't a voter receipt.

Keith Copenhagen
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