Re: Printers Revisited and polling place conditions

From: Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Mon May 24 2004 - 00:15:40 CDT

Hello Arthur:

    I'm not entirely sure about a locked printer enclosure. The voting
station model that I've seen is the touch screen monitor in front with the
printer sitting on the same level behind the monitor and in the voting
station. In the case of laser printers which are preferred solely IMHO
because the pages normally come out face down, the controls tend to be near
the output bin where the voter would pick up the ballot making it tricky to
design. Laser printers kick out a lot of heat (especially if setting the
fusers to be always on) and the enclosure would have to be quite open for
ventilation. For the purpose of certification we might want to agree that
lasers should be used because they are the worst case situation in some
ways. I agree fiddling could be a problem especially with USB cables
regardless of printer type. I've already suggested that monitors use the
old fashioned bolt on cable instead of USB cables and I guess that should go
for printers also. Yes, I know parallel cables are a nuisance but the
finger bolts can be removed and replaced with something like butterfly head
or internal hex bolts which are fiddle resistant. For those of you
wondering how butterfly head bolts, could be removed after the election is
over, there's a special screw driver made for that purpose.

    Again I'm not sure of the consensus as to voting place conditions. I'm
not convinced of the need for heavy security for the equipment. I've never
really seen institutional level security at a polling place in the 30 plus
years I've been voting nor have I actually heard of it being needed, at
least in the US. It's my impression that actions that cause voting results
that actually don't reflect the voters' will are usually something that
occurs after the polling places are closed. This is one of these wholesale
versus retail fraud issues that could be worth discussing further. I'm
aware that there are a lot more knowledgeable people on the conference that
have information about this so I'd like to hear what actual experience has

Thanks, Ed Kennedy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Keller" <>
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Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [voting-project] Printers Revisited

> At 5:03 PM -0700 5/23/04, Alan Dechert wrote:
> >I don't know that the cost is lower either. All the literature I've ever
> >seen pegs cost-per-page to be lower on a laser compared with an inkjet.
> Is that because the monthly duty cycle of a laser is larger than that
> for an inkjet. When the printer will print at most a few hundred
> sheets, two $30 inkjet cartridges is cheaper than one $90 laser
> cartridge. And the inkjet and laser cartridges must be new, lest
> they run out. You cannot expect the average elderly poll worker to
> change the printer cartridge or "roll" a laser one even.
> I suggest it makes sense for the printer to be in a locked enclosure
> to prevent tampering.
> Best regards,
> Arthur
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