Re: Polling Place conditions, reframing the issue

From: Edward Cherlin <edward_dot_cherlin_at_etssg_dot_com>
Date: Mon May 17 2004 - 17:55:57 CDT

On Friday 14 May 2004 10:58 am, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
> Hello Arthur:
>
> I guess I don't understand the voting cycle.

Correct. Please Read The Fine Manuals--that is, the Web site, the
FAQ, the press releases, and such. It's all in there. Really.
And has been discussed to death on this list for 10 months.

> I know that
> the now decertified Diebold Acuvote Tsx has a smart card card
> reader that allows the voter to do just 1 voting cycle (in
> theory). Once the voter pushes the button on the screen that
> they are done, it apparently deactivates the card and expels
> it out of the machine and into the hands of the voter. The
> voter then gives card back to a poll worker who gives them an
> "I voted" sticker.
> <http://www.sdvote.com/Vote/touchscreen.html> What's to keep
> an EVM voter from voting again and again, then stuffing them
> all into the privacy folder and dropping them into the ballot
> box?

Assuming that the card deactivates correctly, how does the person
create more than one ballout printout?

Anyway, if there is no smart card, the answer to your question is
that the voter gives the folder to a poll worker, who checks
that it contains one ballot, and slides that ballot from the
folder into the ballot box. (The ballot is upside-down so the
poll worker can't read it in the process.)

> Are we using a smart card? I don't see anything about a
> card reader.

Context: The previous message was about an existing product that
does use smart cards, as is clear from the part quoted above. We
do not at present. We will research the issues.

> Arthur Keller <arthur@kellers.org> wrote:
>
> At 8:01 PM -0700 5/13/04, Ed Kennedy wrote:
> >Hello Arthur:
> >
> > As the poll worker needs to initialize a machine for each
> > voter (if I understand this correctly) the evm's are being
> > checked as often as every 5 minutes.
>
> I don't know why this has to be. The EVMs should be self-serve
> once you've signed in and gotten your smart card or
> equivalent. Otherwise you need too much poll workers.
>
> > I'd suggest that as the output of each machine is a legal
> > paper ballot, that the machine simply be sent through the
> > end of the day shut down routine upon discovery of a
> > failure.
>
> That's a reasonable strategy, but you don't want to get the
> vote tallies from that machine prematurely.
>
> >However,
> >as the EVM 1 might cost 1/3rd the price of a DRE it's more
> > affordable to have a few machine on standby.
>
> Right now, that's merely a guess. I would suggest we refrain
> from quoting specific numbers, because they will likely miss
> things we later discover that we'll need. It'll be a while
> before we can cost it all out.
>
> Best regards,
> Arthur

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