Re: Have you ever been a poll worker?

From: Arthur Keller <arthur_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Mon May 17 2004 - 13:51:27 CDT

At 11:30 AM -0700 5/17/04, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
>Hello again Arthur:
>
>I replied in haste while waiting for a remote process to complete
>for me in Sacramento so I have apparently garbled this even more.
>My apologies. One would think at almost 53 that I would have
>finally learned to not shoot from the hip. The usual result when
>one does that is hit one's own foot!
>
>To cases:
>
>Flicking paper past your thumb is called fanning.
>
>I was objecting to David Mertz and others calling the process of a
>poll worker entering a pin number for each voter the "Ed," method.
>I guessed by the quickness of your response that you had already
>considered and rejected that process previously.

Why don't we call them the (1) preprinted ballot stock approach
(formerly Ellen's); (2) sequence and ballot-type PINs (formerly
erroneously called Ed's); (3) dumb cards (formerly Alan's); and (4)
smart cards (formerly Arthur's)?

>
>Yes, preprinted ballot stock does sound more promising than any
>other method yet discussed. Would having the poll workers doing the
>printing of the ballots at the polling place on an as needed basis,
>especially during the primaries, be viable?

Not if you adopt colors as suggested by Steve Chessin. Also,
printing ballot blanks on the spot makes reconciliation of ballot
counts harder, plus it's more error prone than handing out the right
ballot stock.

Best regards,
Arthur

>
>Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>
>Arthur Keller <arthur@kellers.org> wrote:
>
>Ed, this idea deals with pre-printed ballot stock, and I didn't
>previously reject that suggestion. I have since suggested adding a
>pre-printed bar code, so the BVA and BRP could make the check
>automatically as well.
>
>Best regards,
>Arthur
>
>At 8:08 AM -0700 5/17/04, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
>>Hello Steve:
>>
>>In printing, the process you describe below is called, "Fanning."
>>However it is usually done with blank paper and the idea is to add a
>>little film of air between each sheet so they move a little more
>>freely in realtionship to each other. It is also done before
>>jogging paper into an even stack. Also, are you sure that the idea
>>of having a poll worker enter a PIN number for the voter is unique
>>to me? I have the impression that Arthur Keller had already
>>considered (and rejected) it.
>>
>>Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>>
>>
>>
>>That does require an additional poll worker during primaries, and there
>>will be some escapes. Most escapes would be caught during either the
>>semi-official or official canvass, where each ballot would be inspected
>>to make sure it matched, and any non-matches declared void (and those
>>precincts recounted). (Some might escape even that check, but then no
>>system is perfect.) (I'm envisioning that, during the canvass, the
>>ballots for each precinct are sorted by color, and then each pile -- I
>>can't think of the word for this, but it's what you do when you hold,
>>say, a paper-back book in one hand and pull the pages with the thumb of
>>your other hand, so that they flip back -- any mis-matched ballots will
>>stand out, especially if one or two large letters are used to indicate
>>the parties, and the print position varies with the party.)
>>
>>Also! , voters will have to enter the correct party. Some may be tempted
>>to enter the wrong party, and will be frustrated when the poll-worker
>>rejects their ballot. There will definitely be confusion for the voter
>>when among the chocies they see, say, "Democratic" (for registered
>>Democrats), "Republican" (for registered Republicans), "NP-Democratic"
>>(for Decline To State who want to vote in the Democratic primary), and
>>"NP-Republican" (for Decline to State who want to vote in the
>>Republican primary). They will have to be told what to enter when they
>>are handed their color-coded blank ballot. (It would help if the
>>color-coded blank ballot were also pre-printed with the party name, or
>>NP for no party.)
>>
>>
>>
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>Amendment 1 to the US Constitution
>
>"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
>or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom
>of speech, or of the press; or the right of people peaceably to
>assemble, and to petition the government for the redress of
>grievances."

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