Re: A partial non-computer based solution to the ballot box stuffing problem and some voter initialization comments

From: Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Sun May 16 2004 - 23:06:10 CDT

Hello Alan and Ellen:

    Umm, could you give me the link to that? I haven't been able to locate
it and am interested in following up on this. Otherwise, from the
description you've given Alan, we're talking about the same thing. I
apparently got the wrong impression about the privacy folder design. I
guess I should have gone back and looked at Arthur's description a little
closer. Hopefully my discussion about the printing issues may be of help in
the future. Ellen, you may have a point about the printers but I suspect a
little change in the privacy folder and ballot design could take care of it.
Also, in my limited experience, there is usually a larger non printable zone
on the top and bottom of a sheet than there is on the sides. I suspect it
will need to be added to the list of items to be tested. I would imagine
that there will end up being a listed of EMC compatible printers for
starters and routine that would adjust the margins based on test print outs
later. Again, this is only a suggestion.

Thanks, Ed Kennedy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ellen Theisen" <ellent@olympus.net>
To: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [voting-project] A partial non-computer based solution to the
ballot box stuffing problem and some voter initialization comments

> Lots of printers won't print 3/16 from the edge. In fact, I think most of
> them won't.
>
> Ellen Theisen
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Dechert" <alan@openvotingconsortium.org>
> To: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [voting-project] A partial non-computer based solution to the
> ballot box stuffing problem and some voter initialization comments
>
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > > Again, the idea is that a small part of the ballot is completely
> > > exposed so a poll worker can check
> > > for double ballots with their finger tips.
> > >
> > It's not clear to me that you understand what has been demonstrated
> > already -- first at the Oct 26 event at UC Santa Cruz and then the
"full"
> > demo on Apr 1.
> >
> > I suggest that you print out a ballot. You need to print the postscript
> > file rather than the PDF so that you have the barcodes in the right
> position
> > on the ballot. The barcode will be close to the edge (around 4-5
> > millimeters or around 3/16ths of an inch).
> >
> > Take a standard sized manilla file folder. It's about 9 in X 12 in.
Cut
> > the open end so that it's about 8 X 12. Now if you put the ballot in
the
> > folder, about 1/2 in. along the long edge is exposed (you can see the
> > barcode on the exposed edge). This is also part of the one-person-one
> > ballot check. It would be plain to see if there was more than one
ballot.
> > The pollworker will take the folder from the voter and slide the one and
> > only one ballot (face down) from the folder into the ballot box. This
has
> > been explained several times on the list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Alan D.
> >
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