Re: Testing (was Re: Fwd: Jurisdictional focus)

From: Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Sat May 08 2004 - 11:19:26 CDT

Hello Edward:

    Good idea!

Thanks, Ed Kennedy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Cherlin" <edward_dot_cherlin_at_etssg_dot_com>
To: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:22 PM
Subject: Testing (was Re: [voting-project] Fwd: Jurisdictional focus)

> On Wednesday 28 April 2004 21:30, Ed Kennedy wrote:
> > Hello Arthur:
> > I do have another idea. Pick a California college town
> > and ask them if they think that we could set up a parallel
> > system at some polling place(s). Once people have voted, ask
> > them if they could test the new system. Have the same ballot
> > as the DRE's. It could be useful for the human engineering
> > tests that seem to be needed and probably adequate for a
> > pilot. It also could be a nice little bit of publicity. I'm
> > suggesting a college town because they'd possibly be more open
> > to such a thing and have a little more time than most of us
> > working stiffs.
>
> It doesn't have to be a governmental election. We might be able
> to run tests at NGOs, schools, labor unions...There are also
> mock elections here and there. We could set up polls at
> appropriate conferences for the attendees.
>
> > Thanks, Ed Kennedy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Arthur Keller" <arthur@kellers.org>
> > To: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
> > Cc: <voting-project@lists.sonic.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [voting-project] Fwd: Jurisdictional focus
> >
> > > I was toying with the idea of doing a full court press for
> > > pilot use this fall. However, the risk of failure is too
> > > great and the spotlight will be very bright. Risk
> > > management dictates that we had better do it right than
> > > quickly. We may want to do pilot use of an incomplete
> > > system for the primary elections in California in spring
> > > 2005. However, it is unlikely that our pilot system could
> > > be certified, and that itself could be a bar to pilot use.
> > >
> > > My goals for the California project, where I would be
> > > Principal Investigator, is to produce a complete software
> > > system by June 2005. Get it certified and use it in pilots
> > > in fall 2005. Iterate and improve it (getting it certified
> > > *again*) for use it in larger pilots in spring 2006.
> > > General availability for fall 2006. We would then evaluate
> > > the system, make one last pass of improvements (getting it
> > > certified *again*) for spring 2007. The R & D contract
> > > would end at the end of the summer of 2007. Note that UC
> > > would not be the entity that arranges for certification, but
> > > it could be the OVC that arranges for it. The statement of
> > > work for UC will include assisting that entity. (Because I
> > > have a conflict of interest, it will be someone else at UCSC
> > > who decides whether the OVC will be the subcontractor on the
> > > project and how much the subcontract is for.)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > > At 8:02 AM -0700 4/28/04, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
> > > >Hello Dave:
> > > >
> > > > I'm just trying to stimulate discussion, not
> > > >start a civil war. I've already conceded in advance
> > > >that this is a somewhat 'provincial' proposal. If
> > > >Texas, Illinois, Massachusetts or Baja-Norte, Mexico,
> > > >feels that it can rapidly mobilize for at least a 3
> > > >polling place pilot test, more power to them! Again,
> > > >I strongly feel that there absolutely needs to be some
> > > >sort of goals and some sort of schedule to focus
> > > >efforts.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks, Ed Kennedy
> > >
> > > --
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >--------------
> >
> > -----
> >
> > > Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA
> > > 94303-4507 tel +1(650)424-0202, fax +1(650)424-0424
>
> --
> Edward Cherlin, Simputer Evangelist
> Encore Technologies (S) Pte. Ltd.
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