Re: A tiny amount of money( was: re: Slashdot and Newsforge)

From: Teresa Hommel <tahommel_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Sun Mar 12 2006 - 09:55:21 CST
Better advice would be to get someone who is visually impaired or blind to try the Vote-PAD.
Myself, I tried some accessibility devices and couldn't get them to work. The guy next to me in a wheelchair laughed and said, "Yeah but if you use them all day, you get good at it." He had no trouble with the same devices.
Teresa Hommel

-----Original Message-----
From: "Richard C. Johnson"
Sent: Mar 11, 2006 5:45 PM
To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] A tiny amount of money( was: re: Slashdot and Newsforge)

Check out how the Vote-PAD actually works.  Blindfold yourself and see if you think you could use it.  Yes, it is paper.  No, it is not necessarily a good solution for all of the vision impaired voters.  At least, so it seemed to me.
-- Dick

Ron Crane <> wrote:
And for a large majority of the disabled (those with vision impairments
or some motion impairments), there's the Vote-PAD
(, a noncomputerized device that helps voters
fill out plain paper ballots.

As for requiring publicly-reviewed, publicly-checked, etc., source for
tabulators, plus Nevada Gaming Control Board-style random and directed
inspections, great. But it's even more important to conduct sampling
hand recounts in a randomly-selected, statistically-si! gnificant set of
precincts. These have the added benefit of being amenable to effective
supervision by much of the general public, even that large portion that
knows nothing about computers.


Fred McLain wrote:
> In truth, to meet HAVA requirements all we need is a system off to the
> side that impaired people can use. This is what New Mexico is doing.
> There's nothing to stop most folks from using pen and paper to vote.
> Even if it is (as it is now) a very corrupt e-vote system it won't
> influence the outcome of the elections if most people use plain paper
> ballots. What we really need to open source are the counting systems,
> not the voting stations.
> Just my 2 cents.
> -Fred-
> On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:55 +0100, Jan Karrman wrote:
>> Hardware: OSS Election Systems Desired, but Not Ready
>> An anonymous reader writes "Even thou! gh many American voters are ready
>> for open source systems at the polls, Newsforge (a Slashdot sister
>> site) has an interesting story about why open source may not be ready
>> for the polls. From the article: 'The only open source e-voting effort
>> that Rubin [an e-voting expert] noted was the Open Voting Consortium
>> (OVC). "I don't agree with everything they are doing, but they are all
>> about transparency and open source," Rubin said. OVC President and CEO
>> Alan Dechert says it would take a large investment of time and money
>> to provide an alternative to traditional e-voting systems vendors, but
>> he says an effort known as Open Voting Solutions (OVS) is looking to
>> do just that.'"
>> /Jan
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