Re: Diebold on eBay

From: Alan Dechert <dechert_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Fri Jun 16 2006 - 10:30:50 CDT

Okay, I'll try to get it. Reminder ... it closes next Tuesday at 3:38:10 pm Pacific (there is no reason to place any more bids until just before the close). Given the level of interest, it's not going to be cheap. I may need some more help with purchasing. Don't post any more figures to the list... send me private email. I want to get it, but not that bad. I especially don't want to be stuck with something that's going to put us in the hole.... and there may be a better way to obtain one of these. This is probably non-working junk.

Alan D.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Richard C. Johnson
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  Cc: Alan Dechert
  Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Diebold on eBay

  Abashed, I totally agree with David. I do think the threat Diebold poses deserves to be honored by the procedure David suggests. No more jokes. Please enter my pledge of $25 towards such a successful bid. Let's buy the beast and send it to the pathologist to examine its inner parts. Alan, are you the designated bidder?


  -- Dick

  David Jefferson <> wrote:
    This may be an opportunity; it should not be treated as a joke.

    Someone should write the seller and ask the following questions:

    1) Is the model a TS or TSx? If a TSx, is it a Rev A, B, C, D, or
    E? (If the seller does not know, we should ask what he knows in
    terms of the provenance, i.e. "used in Georgia in 2004 primary", etc. )

    2) What is its serial number? (This will tell us something about the
    model and age. And if the seller cannot come up with a serial number
    that is syntactically correct, it may be a hoax.)

    3) Does the machine work, i.e. power up and boot?

    4) Is the internal software still intact, i.e. does it boot WinCE,
    and launch the BallotStation app?

    5) Does any software come with it? I so, what version, and on what

    6) Does it have a VVPT unit or not? Does it come with smart cards,
    memory cards, smartcard coder device, or other media, devices, or

    Asking these questions may tell you some other things as well: Is the
    machine stolen?

    If this sale is not a hoax, someone should definitely buy it and
    contribute it to someone else who can make good forensic use of it.
    I would be willing to contribute up to $100 to the purchase if the
    machine is in good shape and not stolen. I'd contribute $200 if the
    machine came to me.


    On Jun 15, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Arthur Keller wrote:

> At 10:02 PM -0700 6/15/06, Ron Crane wrote:
>> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>>> It would be a terrible waste to destroy a Diebold DRE.
>>> Take it apart and take pictures. Here's the infrared port,
>>> here's the socketed BIOS chip with no seal, here's the
>>> jumper to reset the clock and fake out the date,
>>> here's the CF socket where the tamperers can substitute
>>> their code, here's the FAT32 file system with no
>>> journal or change history, here's Access,
>>> here's the blue screen, here's how you insert a trojan...
>>> Send it to the popular conspiracy sites and let
>>> them buzz it up.
>> I can hardly add anything to that tour de force, except to say that
>> rhetoric is extremely powerful: more powerful, alas, than truth.
>> But if
>> you can use rhetoric in the service of truth, then you really have
>> something.
> Rather than destroying the carcass, I'd rather see if we can use the
> hardware as the basis for a reliable voting system using open source
> software. So after you take the pictures, donate it to the
> University of California. I'll gladly get you a tax receipt.
> Best regards,
> Arthur
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