Re: Diebold on eBay

From: Teresa Hommel <tahommel_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Fri Jun 16 2006 - 08:34:43 CDT

I know someone who bought one and it did not have the "key" whatever that means and they could not turn it on.


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>From: "Richard C. Johnson" <>
>Sent: Jun 16, 2006 9:22 AM
>To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list <>
>Cc: Alan Dechert <>
>Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Diebold on eBay
>Abashed, I totally agree with David. I do think the threat Diebold poses deserves to be honored by the procedure David suggests. No more jokes. Please enter my pledge of $25 towards such a successful bid. Let's buy the beast and send it to the pathologist to examine its inner parts. Alan, are you the designated bidder?
> Cheers!
> -- Dick
>David Jefferson <> wrote:
> This may be an opportunity; it should not be treated as a joke.
>Someone should write the seller and ask the following questions:
>1) Is the model a TS or TSx? If a TSx, is it a Rev A, B, C, D, or
>E? (If the seller does not know, we should ask what he knows in
>terms of the provenance, i.e. "used in Georgia in 2004 primary", etc. )
>2) What is its serial number? (This will tell us something about the
>model and age. And if the seller cannot come up with a serial number
>that is syntactically correct, it may be a hoax.)
>3) Does the machine work, i.e. power up and boot?
>4) Is the internal software still intact, i.e. does it boot WinCE,
>and launch the BallotStation app?
>5) Does any software come with it? I so, what version, and on what
>6) Does it have a VVPT unit or not? Does it come with smart cards,
>memory cards, smartcard coder device, or other media, devices, or
>Asking these questions may tell you some other things as well: Is the
>machine stolen?
>If this sale is not a hoax, someone should definitely buy it and
>contribute it to someone else who can make good forensic use of it.
>I would be willing to contribute up to $100 to the purchase if the
>machine is in good shape and not stolen. I'd contribute $200 if the
>machine came to me.
>On Jun 15, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Arthur Keller wrote:
>> At 10:02 PM -0700 6/15/06, Ron Crane wrote:
>>> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>>>> It would be a terrible waste to destroy a Diebold DRE.
>>>> Take it apart and take pictures. Here's the infrared port,
>>>> here's the socketed BIOS chip with no seal, here's the
>>>> jumper to reset the clock and fake out the date,
>>>> here's the CF socket where the tamperers can substitute
>>>> their code, here's the FAT32 file system with no
>>>> journal or change history, here's Access,
>>>> here's the blue screen, here's how you insert a trojan...
>>>> Send it to the popular conspiracy sites and let
>>>> them buzz it up.
>>> I can hardly add anything to that tour de force, except to say that
>>> rhetoric is extremely powerful: more powerful, alas, than truth.
>>> But if
>>> you can use rhetoric in the service of truth, then you really have
>>> something.
>> Rather than destroying the carcass, I'd rather see if we can use the
>> hardware as the basis for a reliable voting system using open source
>> software. So after you take the pictures, donate it to the
>> University of California. I'll gladly get you a tax receipt.
>> Best regards,
>> Arthur
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