RE: Our Wiki just got hijacked

From: Popkin, Laird (WMG Corp) <"Popkin,>
Date: Wed Jun 30 2004 - 10:24:27 CDT

We already have a host (, so I don't think that needs to be
an issue.

- LP

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-voting-project_at_afterburner_dot_sonic_dot_net
[]On Behalf Of Arthur
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [voting-project] Our Wiki just got hijacked

At 1:44 AM -0400 6/30/04, David Mertz wrote:
>On Jun 30, 2004, at 1:27 AM, Arthur Keller wrote:
>>If the password is published widely enough to allow readers, then
>>it's published widely enough to permit vandals.
>Nope. Whatever the other arguments, this one is wrong. Vandals
>really means "bots" here. No one, but no one, goes into Wikis
>manually and maliciously modifies sites... well, sure, on "hot"
>topics where people write related but flamey stuff it's manual.

And on the voting issue, that's very likely to happen.

>But the gambling nonsense, or similar spam-type stuff is all done by
>automated programs. Those automated spiders simply do no know any
>passwords or usernames. And none of the wiki-spammer are going to
>take manual efforts figure out details for some small discussion
>site. Just like email spammers don't go through list registration
>procedures, even for lists with open/automated memberships.
>>The two VPs of the OVC have recommended against (1).
>OK... but I can't donate my host to an anti-Wiki. Hosting it
>somewhere else is entirely out of my hands, of course. In fact, the
>fact you -can- host somewhere else is a small blow for anarchy, and
>therefore good.

We can look for another hosting service. I will also look into
whether UCSC can host it.

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
tel +1(650)424-0202, fax +1(650)424-0424
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