Re: Why Samizdat is not the same as the Ivory Tower

From: Arthur Keller <arthur_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Tue Jun 29 2004 - 14:07:43 CDT

At 1:48 PM -0400 6/29/04, David Mertz wrote:
>On Jun 29, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Arthur Keller wrote:
>>This is not the first time that our site has been vandalized
>Nope... it's the second time.
>>and unless we create authentication, it won't be the last.
>Probably not. It took two hours to fix this vandalism. If our Wiki
>gets used more, it will take much less time though.
>FWIW, I think the restricted mailing list is a mistake too. Spam
>filters (and maybe a block list if obnoxious people disrupt things)
>would be a better approach to eliminating unrelated messages. But
>Arthur set it up, and does the work to maintain it... so it's his
>decision to make.
>But a web site under the control of a couple people in the hope of
>it being read by a "general population" is an "anti-Wiki." I don't
>want to host one of those, nor participate in one. Well... that's
>not exactly true: we *do* have a number of such pages already,
>appropriately. For example, the EVM2003 and OVC websites already
>serve this role. But something that pretends to be a Wiki while
>really just being a publish-only, no-participation, web site feels
>very dishonest to me.
>All that said, if vandalism starts happening more than once every
>couple months, I suppose we'll need to do something. But we should
>make it as easy as possible for non-vandals to get access... i.e.
>not require vetting by me, or by Arthur, or by Laird, or whomever,
>just some sort of open registration that a bot won't manage to do.

If it happens more often, I agree we'll definitely need to do
something. That being said, I prefer a visible-to-the-outside but
contributions only from a community of vetted people. It's easy to
get on the mailing list, so that's not a problem. It should be
similarly easy (but not automatic) to get onto the Wiki editing

Vandals can make an environment unusable. That's what spam is doing to email.

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
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