Re: Our Wiki just got hijacked

From: Arthur Keller <arthur_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Tue Jun 29 2004 - 12:28:47 CDT

At 1:16 PM -0400 6/29/04, David Mertz wrote:
>>>A Wiki is closer to a discussion list than it is to formal publication.
>On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Arthur Keller wrote:
>>Others may not make that distinction. I'd prefer if we had a login
>>system. Simple passwords will do.
>What others?! People who don't know what a Wiki is?

The typical person looking at our materials.

>If you're worried about it, add a note to the HomePage that says "A
>Wiki is more like a discussion list than it is like a formal
>publication"... that way anyone who goes there will know that fact.
>>The danger is not merely vandalism, it is someone changing our text
>>in a way that we don't notice and changes our meaning. That's the
>>greater risk.
>Just look at the change history. There's nothing subtle there: it
>gives you explicit diffs between versions, with colors and
>highlights pointing out what's changed. Looking at a colorized
>diff, it's pretty darn hard to miss it if a change gives the wrong
>meaning. It doesn't make a whit of difference whether that wrong
>meaning is malicious or careless, or just represents a
>misunderstanding by an OVCer... if it's wrong, make it better!

I don't understand the social problem of having registered users and
passwords. It avoids vandalism, and let's us know who wants to

>I definitely DO NOT want to create an ANTI-WIKI that masquerades as a Wiki.

Who's talking about an Anti-Wiki? I'm talking about controlled
authorship. We don't allow merely anyone to post to our mailing list
(and we've stopped quite a few Nigerian spams that way), and there
aren't calls to allow anyone.

I think people should introduce themselves to a community before
contributing. Having strangers edit our discussions, for good or
evil intent, is not a requirement of a Wiki. Rather, I want a
discussion amongst a community, to which others can join.

For the record, how long did it take until the vandalism was
discovered and restored?

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
tel +1(650)424-0202, fax +1(650)424-0424
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