RE: Notes #1 from KSG/NSF symposium

From: Popkin, Laird (WMG Corp) <"Popkin,>
Date: Wed Jun 02 2004 - 11:39:40 CDT

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Subject: Re: [voting-project] Notes #1 from KSG/NSF symposium

At 11:31 AM -0400 6/2/04, David Mertz wrote:
>The organizers will publish notes soon, so I'll wait for that to
>refresh my memories of names and sequence. In the meanwhile, two
>brief comments occurred fairly frequently among people I spoke with:
>
>(1) LOTS of people who generally like the design immediately have
>doubts about the barcode, and recommend without prompting that OCR
>is better for transparency to voters. Almost everyone, actually.

It's one reason I've recommended that the entire ballot have use an
OCR font *in addition to* the bar code. Unfortunately, that would
take extra space.

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We could use the same text as is printed now, only using an "OCR" font.
Actually, since we're using a known font in a known position, we could "OCR"
the text exactly as it is, though we might want to white out the "watermark"
directly under the text in order to avoid the possibility of confusing the
OCR software. So we could allow users (the states) to decide whether to use
the barcodes (i.e. save money, greater accuracy) or the OCR (i.e. more
money, greater transparency to voters).
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>(2) We REALLY need some kind of "announcement" or "state of OVC" 
>mailing list that is MUCH lower traffic than this one.  Just about 
>everyone told me they'd like to follow the progress, but no one said 
>they wanted an extra thousand messages a month.  A website that was 
>updated more regularly might serve this purpose somewhat, but not as 
>well as a "push" mailing list.
>
>As I envision such a thing, we should send out notes no more than 
>once a day to the "summary" subscribers.  I think it would be OK to 
>include someone describing the state of discussion on the main (and 
>developer) list.  E.g. a sentence like "A long historical ballot 
>from NM was presented by Charlie Straus, Alan Dechert created a 
>mockup of how OVC systems might print such a race; and Chalie asked 
>about the information entropy of this ballot" would not be too much 
>for someone to read... they just wouldn't want the half dozen full 
>posts.  Relevant external events should certainly be mentioned too.
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The drupal web site allows people to subscribe to update emails. These
updates are a summary of all new stories posted on the site each day, as a
digest that links back to the web site. For example, the following email was
sent to me recently:
Greetings Laird Popkin,
Recent content
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published page by Laird Popkin: <p>
Open Voting Consortium Mission
</p>
The Open Voting Consortium (OVC) is a non-profit organization dedicated
to the development, maintenance, and delivery of an open voting system
for use in public elections.
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/72 ]
published forum by Laird Popkin: <p>
General
</p>
Please post here if you have general questions.
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/76 ]
published forum by Laird Popkin: <p>
Let's talk about bar codes!
</p>
Why do we use barcodes instead of OCR characters or optical scan dots?
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/77 ]
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This was fantastic
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Welcome!
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 by Laird Popkin
    http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/76/16#16
Note that when people sign up they can choose what level of detail they
want. Specifically, they can pick between getting headlines, headlines and
teasers, or the full messages, and whether they also want notifications of
new discussion postings. So the email can be as compact as:
Greetings Laird Popkin,
Recent content
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published page by Laird Popkin: <p>
Open Voting Consortium Mission
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/72 ]
published forum by Laird Popkin: <p>
General
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/76 ]
published forum by Laird Popkin: <p>
Let's talk about bar codes!
  [ http://gyaku.pair.com/vote/drupal/?q=node/view/77 ]
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Since the process of posting to the site is moderated (only certain people
have permission) the option of "send me a daily email digest of all new OVC
articles" is pretty close to a moderated mailing list.
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>So volunteers to run a "Daily OVC" mailing list.  Such a list should 
>definitely *NOT* be open to just anyone posting to it.  At most two 
>to three people should have posting permission... probably only one 
>person.  Ideally, the person should be someone who is--well, not 
>me--but specifically, someone who would like to do more, but is not 
>a coder per se (whose time is useful for coding), and probably not 
>someone who is spending lots of time on lobbying and grant writing.
I will create a moderated announcement list.  I will ask those who 
already took themselves off the current lists if they want to be on 
it.  It's also possible to have the list moderator separate from the 
message writer.  This is useful to ensure that what is posted *is* 
the position of the OVC.  I'd be happy to be the moderator, if 
someone else is the author.  Thanks.
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A ovc-announce list is a great idea. I am sure that we have people people
who want to keep updated, but not dragged through the details. :-) And
volunteering to run it is the perfect next step!
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Best regards,
Arthur
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