Re: Small Linux platforms-bidding on real RFPs

From: David Webber \(XML\) <"David>
Date: Sun Jul 17 2005 - 15:31:53 CDT

Nathan,

That's *exactly* the knee jerk reaction I said to avoid.

I'm an OSI zealot - I'm running two OSI projects
already - but I'm also pragmatic. I have looked
at *all* the OSI forms solutions, and a couple of
friends even run some of those companies.

#1 - They are not DOD certified - without this you
       do not even leave the starting gate - you
       simply *cannot* bid on the RFP - done,
       goodnight, leave, goodbye.

#2 - You have about 6 months here - you cannot build
       the equivalent of all the sophistication Adobe has;
       they are the market leader and it shows.

#3 - You need name recognition - that is marketing
       101 - and I know these federal and state
       contracting officers - without big league support
       you will simply fail to meet their qualifications as
       a viable business entity. Yeah, life sucks, but
       I'm just telling you being two men and a dog in
       a garage does not work anymore.

DW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan L. Adams" <nadams@ieee.org>
To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>; "Open Voting Consortium
discussion list" <ovc-discuss@listman.sonic.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Small Linux platforms-bidding on real RFPs

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> David Webber (XML) wrote:
> > Dick,
> >
> > I have been seriously considering this - partnering with someone like
Adobe
> > (who have expressed private interest) - and use their DOD certified form
> > tools (gets around alot of issues with proposed solution not being
federally
> > certified), and then marrying the XML that the XFA forms produce into
some
> > simple open source C routines to store as EML compliant vote records,
> > control printing, and then similarly doing open source counting and
tallying
> > from stored XML records.
>
> [snip]
>
> > It's not perfect - but it is potentially viable - notice - I'm being
> > pragmatic here - winning a bid is not the same as being purists who are
> > holier than thou OSI zealots - here we have to give to gain.
>
> Its not a matter of being holier than thou. If any part of the process
> is proprietary it is *not* trustworthy. If you can't find an equivalent
> F/OSS to Adobe's tools, you probably either aren't looking hard enough
> or you're adding uneccessary complexity (and that's not to say that
> F/OSS is incapable of complexity, just the particular tool hasn't been
> needed in the F/OSS world yet).
>
> Also, name calling folks "OSI zealots" shows that at the very least you
> and Adobe are missing the point.
>
> Nathan
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