Re: Fwd: Radio programme on e-voting in Oz

From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Sat Jul 24 2004 - 15:40:28 CDT

So, it seems evident that the BRP will *detect* if someone has left
with a ballot... but what happens in the BRP if all extra EBI's are
accounted for (test ballots, etc.) except for one? What happens then?
 Do the reconcilers say, "Well, that voter must have walked out with
the summary paper ballot, that means they didn't vote... too bad for

I guess this is a more general question... in the case of DREs with
AVVPATs, if there is a discrepancy between the electronic and paper
record, the "paper governs". That would seem to mean any votes
without an electronic counterpart are disregarded as erroneous or
mischievous. This seems like a reasonable process in the OVC
reconciliation (of course, might need legislation/regulation to be put
into affect).


On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 11:07:07 -0700, Alan Dechert
<> wrote:
> Joe,
> > This was a big concern of Marc Carrel's (Asst. SoS in CA). If someone
> > walks out of the precinct with an OVC system-printed ballot, there is
> > now a descrepancy between the electronic count and the paper count.
> > Is the electronic vote with missing paper ballot allowed? If so, what
> > prevents someone from adding a series of electronic votes that don't
> > have corresponding paper records?
> >
> With the OVC system, the act of voting involves putting the paper ballot in
> the ballot box. If you don't put the ballot in the ballot box, then you
> didn't vote.
> The system expects there to be more EBIs (Electronic Ballot Images) than
> paper ballots -- this is due to test ballots, spoiled ballots, etc. The
> reconciliation procedure takes care of this. We didn't have time to explain
> this to Marc, but we did hand out the BRP guide:
> Alan D.

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
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