Re: Fwd: Radio programme on e-voting in Oz

From: Arthur Keller <arthur_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Sat Jul 24 2004 - 13:29:43 CDT

At 11:07 AM -0700 7/24/04, Alan Dechert wrote:
>> This was a big concern of Marc Carrel's (Asst. SoS in CA). If someone
>> walks out of the precinct with an OVC system-printed ballot, there is
>> now a descrepancy between the electronic count and the paper count.
>> Is the electronic vote with missing paper ballot allowed? If so, what
>> prevents someone from adding a series of electronic votes that don't
>> have corresponding paper records?
>With the OVC system, the act of voting involves putting the paper ballot in
>the ballot box. If you don't put the ballot in the ballot box, then you
>didn't vote.
>The system expects there to be more EBIs (Electronic Ballot Images) than
>paper ballots -- this is due to test ballots, spoiled ballots, etc. The
>reconciliation procedure takes care of this. We didn't have time to explain
>this to Marc, but we did hand out the BRP guide:
>Alan D.

Plus there are provisional ballots. The paper ballots are sealed in
an envelope that describes the situation, and then a decision is made
subsequently to count or not count the provisional ballot. If the
provisional ballot is counted, it is then reconciled against the EBI.
When the provisional ballot is to be counted, it is removed from the
envelope and placed on a pile of provisional ballots to be counted.
So anonymity is (mostly) preserved.

It's not clear how an election official decides *sometimes days after
the close of the polling place* whether or not to count a provisional
ballot when it is cast on a DRE. It's especially not clear how
anonymity is preserved in that case.

So besides Alan's (rare) case of people walking off with ballots,
there is the more usual case of provisional ballots that will lead to
expected discrepancies, and a clear process for handling them.

That is, the paper prevails. The electronic version is merely an
audit check to make sure the paper is not "stuffed" or "tampered

Best regards,

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
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