RE: Cost of testing (was Re: open source voting links...)

From: Arnold Urken <aurken_at_stevens_dot_edu>
Date: Tue Jul 20 2004 - 11:56:12 CDT

Alan,

In 1991, I think, Stevens partnered with US Testing (UST) to form
Election Technology Laboratories. UST handled the packaging,
temperature, drop testing and other related standards. Computer
scientist colleagues and I handled software issues.

ETL was recognized as an ITA just about the same time as Wylie. We
submitted a paper application (and a fee) to NASED and Bob Naegele
visited Hoboken to evaluate our facilities and interview the principals.
The idea of being an ITA for only one part of the system is news to me.

FYI, it was Wylie that agreed to do only black box testing.

Hope this helps.
Arnie

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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Cost of testing (was Re: [voting-project] open source
voting links...)

I think Ed was asking how one becomes an ITA. Doug Lewis
(electioncenter.org) set all of this up years ago (in the early 90s, I
believe). Lewis was relieved of the duty of overseeing all of this last
year. Arnie Urken knows about the process since he got set up as an ITA
under the old system (Arnie folded up his tent when ES&S refused to
disclose
their source--black box only was allowed).

Now, the EAC is ultimately in charge of all this although they (Brian
Hancock) haven't really figured out how to approach this yet. Tom
Wilkey of
NASED is the main person in charge of authorizing ITAs. Contact info for
Wilkey and Hancock is at the bottom of the document Joe cited. Wilkey's
email addr is not there but Hancock gave it to me: twilkey@nycap.rr.com

SysTest was recently approved to be a hardware ITA (previously approved
as
software ITA).
http://www.systest.com/news/2004/hardwareita.htm

Alan D.

> The Certification Process:
> http://www.nased.org/NASEDITAProcess.pdf
>
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:00:06 -0700, Edward Cherlin
<cherlin@pacbell.net>
wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:28 pm, Alan Dechert wrote:
> > > We will need to work with the ITA (and pay them $125/hr)
> > > before we have a system really ready to submit. It's not like
> > > we have a lot of choices in the matter either. There's Wyle,
> > > Ciber, and SysTest.
> >
> > Doesn't that mean that we should prod somebody else to do it
> > right? How does an organization get certified to do the testing?
> > --
> > Edward Cherlin
> > Generalist & activist--Linux, languages, literacy and more
> > "A knot! Oh, do let me help to undo it!"
> > --Alice in Wonderland
> > http://cherlin.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall
> UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
> http://pobox.com/~joehall/
> blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb2/
>
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